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ray_higdon SSCarpal Tunnel Points: 4589 More actions · Answer 1

Just curious, you found something by Celko less well researched? Would love to hear an example.

If you want to know the relational model and theory - Data and databases by Celko is great (I got mine on half.com for $5)

Inside SQL Server, as someone else mentioned, is excellent.

If you want to know data warehousing get almost any book by Ralph Kimball (specifically the data warehouse lifecycle toolkit series)

GL

Ray Higdon MCSE, MCDBA, CCNA

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mccork SSC-Insane Points: 22288 More actions · Answer 2

How about an Oracle Architecture book?

Cheers,

- Mark

Cheers,
- Mark

Frank Kalis SSC Guru Points: 111183 More actions · Answer 3

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Krispy Kreme is amazing, especially when hot! They melt in your mouth.

Maybe I get flamed for this, but I don't like Donuts!

...and McDonalds I don't like, too!

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Course feel free to send us here your 2004 renewal fee of US$0 for the site.

what about taking this as prepayment for next 5 SSC annual books?

Frank

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Frank Kalis SSC Guru Points: 111183 More actions · Answer 4

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Just curious, you found something by Celko less well researched? Would love to hear an example.
If you want to know the relational model and theory - Data and databases by Celko is great (I got mine on half.com for $5)

here we go!

http://www.pgro.uk7.net/cjd6a.htm (Btw, from my point of view, one of the rare true valuable sources on the net!)

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The SQL language was developed by IBM's Santa Teresa labs ... The big debate during development was not over the relational model, but over how NULLs should be handled ... The result was System R and Sequel (Structured English-like Query Language) as their first product ... The language was later extended a bit and became the first version of SQL

this is simply not accurate, as C.J. Date points out!

no big point, I admit, but it is written

Frank

I have heard of Ralph Kimball. I guess he must be to Datawarehousing what codd is to RDBMS. I'm not very much into Datawarehousing, but if I really change position internally, I will be confronted with this topic

Edited by - Frank Kalis on 09/05/2003 12:49:33 AM

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Frank Kalis SSC Guru Points: 111183 More actions · Answer 5

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How about an Oracle Architecture book?

Did I already mention that I struggle with Australian humor

Now, being serious, Oracle isn't an option for me at all. We will kick out our Oracle server around mid of next year. And everyone is not really sad about this.

Frank

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ray_higdon SSCarpal Tunnel Points: 4589 More actions · Answer 6

Frank, excellent link on CJ Date's opinions, I still like Celko but can see his points.

Thx

Ray Higdon MCSE, MCDBA, CCNA

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Frank Kalis SSC Guru Points: 111183 More actions · Answer 7

Hi Ray,

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Frank, excellent link on CJ Date's opinions, I still like Celko but can see his points.

don't get me wrong.

I have not read anything from Celko yet. And I think he wouldn't be the authority he is, by talking and publishing just nonsense!

But I was really suprised when I read the article in the link. For I considered this 'common knowledge' or at least are the information reachable for everyone.

Frank

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Frank Kalis SSC Guru Points: 111183 More actions · Answer 8

Database Design for Mere Mortals by Michael J. Hernandez (Addison-Wesley, 1997)

Finally I found this again.

Anyone can comment on this?

Frank

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K. Brian Kelley SSC Guru Points: 114642 More actions · Answer 9

Take Celko in perspective: he's human like the rest of us. I have one of his books (SQL for Smarties) and found it to be interesting, just as I found the 1st Henderson book interesting (don't have the second, so I can't comment on it). I also found the Transact-SQL Cookbook to be an interesting book but it hasn't gotten the greatest reviews. I originally took a look at it because MVP Vyas Kondreddi recommended it.

K. Brian Kelley

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Author: Start to Finish Guide to SQL Server Performance Monitoring

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K. Brian Kelley
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callison Old Hand Points: 350 More actions · Answer 10

I'm surprised that nobody has mentioned the new SQL Server 2000 High Availability book. It is awesome!

Dale Corey SSCrazy Eights Points: 9019 More actions · Answer 11

callison,

Who is the author/publisher/ISBN? Why do you like it so much? I haven't heard of it but I haven't been looking. With that kind of reference, I am interested.

All the best,

Dale

All the best,

Dale

Author: An Introduction to SQL Server 2005 Management Studio

callison Old Hand Points: 350 More actions · Answer 12

It is a Microsoft Press book. Authors are Alan Hirt, Cathan Cook, Kimberly Tripp, and Frank McBath. The ISBN is 0-7356-1920-4. It came out a little more than a month ago. It covers everything from disk configurations, clustering, log shipping, replication, backup and recovery, etc., in depth and with information that is not easy to find anywhere else, or, at least, is not put together in the systematic, intelligent way that it is presented in the book. It also takes into consideration the "real world" -- always a refreshing approach. I haven't found anything in it yet that is incorrect, or with which I disagree. These folks know of what they speak! The list price of the book is USD $49.99, and it is worth every penny.

ray_higdon SSCarpal Tunnel Points: 4589 More actions · Answer 13

I've been at a few seminars where Kim Tripp spoke and she is awesome.

Ray Higdon MCSE, MCDBA, CCNA

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Frank Kalis SSC Guru Points: 111183 More actions · Answer 14

Hi Brian,

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Take Celko in perspective: he's human like the rest of us.

I've mentioned before, it's no big point, but I was really suprised to see such an 'slip of the pen' (sorry, looked this up in a dictionary) from such an authority.

As you know, I did some research on the topic of SQL's history, so I was able to figure out that the points are not accurate. And when I am able to do so, for someone like Celko this should be a really simple exercise!

And it is my believe (some would say my problem) that you are judged on what you do. I don't give anybody credit just because he brings in a big name. If something is wrong, it is wrong. No matter who did it. Simple as that!

I can't say anything on other works by Celko, because I don't know them.

But I guess they must be somehow outstanding, otherwise Celko wouldn't be what he is.

Frank

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ckempste SSCoach Points: 17983 More actions · Answer 15

Hi there

I have to say, Ken Henderson's T-SQL GURU book is a great buy. Other option I would seriously consider is http://www.books24x7.com, fantastic site and hundreds of books... save up a little more of course but well worth it.

Cheers

Cl

Chris Kempster

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Author of "SQL Server 2k for the Oracle DBA"

Chris Kempster
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Author of "SQL Server Backup, Recovery & Troubleshooting"
Author of "SQL Server 2k for the Oracle DBA"