Where to place the database backup on Active \ Passive cluseter

  • Hi,
     
      I am planning for SQL Server 2000 Installation on Active \ Passive Cluster on Windows 2003 Enterprise Edition environment. The database that will be hosted would size around 250 GB.  The database data file and log file will be placed on shared disk  - Enterprise storage.
     
     The question is,
      What would be the  good practice on placing database backup on Active \ Passive SQL Server Cluster?
      Should the database backup be placed Enterprise Storage or Local disk of the active node?
     
     Since the database size so big ( 250 GB )  placing the database on Enterprise storage would be costlier.
     
    Thanks
    S Sivaprasad

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  • SQL Server is very unforgiving when there is any latency between it and the backup device. A single delayed packet can cause the backup to fail. That's why it's always best to backup to the local disk.

    Once you have successfully backed up the file you can move it wherever you liek using something like ROBOCOPY from the Windows Resource kit.

     

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  • adding to phillcart 's reply :

    and implement as backupsolution Full (weekly?) / diff ? (perf.impact) / and log (hourly) backups. according to a sla.

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  • Consider one of the third party backup systems like SQLLitespeed (http://www.imceda.com/) or SQLZip (http://www.sqlzip.com/) which offer compression in the backup. They are very fast for local backups and the smaller size will help in copying to a remote location afterwards or even tape backups.

  • Hey all,

      Thanks for the reply.

      Any one know, Is there any advise given by Microsoft on placing the SQL server backup file on Active \ Passive cluster environment?

     

    Sivaprasad S - [ SIVA ][/url]http://sivasql.blogspot.com/[/url]

  • As mentioned above, assumming sufficient space locally, local may be preferable, as long as you ensure that you are moving this elsewhere afters, i.e. your off-site storage site, which I strongly suggest you ensure is inplace, and test ona regular basis. Remember, local storage may well go *boom* is a box goes *boom*

    Given the need to move this file around, the suggestions above regards 3rd party tools to reduce the size can be VERY relevant - 250 GB takes a while to copy

    Your "enterprise storage" - is this a SAN? Does it have SNAPSHOT capability? In which case you may want to consider using it, in that case.

  • Hi

    1. It is better to place the backup files in Enterprise Storage, because you will have access from both the servers.

    2. If you plan to keep backup files on hard disk, it's better to put in passive Node, Because that node will become active when the current active node goes offline. 

    with regards

    Meenakshi

     

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    MeenakshiSundaram Lakshmanan

  • Hi,

    a lot depends on the overall strategy you have.

    Will you do logshipping?

    if yes, what is the size of the logfile(s)

    What is your guaranteed recovery-time for the database?

    Will one backup per day be enough or will you have to keep more than one backup on disk?

    If you use somethin like SQLLitespeed, the size of your backups will be roughly a quarter of the db-size.

    If you are going to copy something like that over the network, you will need a seperate networkcard just for that AND it will be a long, long, long process.

    If you put everything on SAN, device a strategy to get the backupfiles on tape at a time when no SQL-Server-backup runs.

    So i would advise to put the backupfiles on your SAN, but plan for a lot of space (if you have to restore, you will need at least twice the size of your db - once for the backupfiles and once for the db)

    regards karl

    Best regards
    karl

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