February 8, 2011 at 4:46 pm
Brandie Tarvin (2/8/2011)
proper American English
According to some of my British friends, that's an oxymoron. π
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February 8, 2011 at 10:19 pm
Jeff Moden (2/8/2011)
Brandie Tarvin (2/8/2011)
proper American EnglishAccording to some of my British friends, that's an oxymoron. π
Absolutely. π
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February 9, 2011 at 7:12 am
Jeff Moden (2/8/2011)
Brandie Tarvin (2/8/2011)
proper American EnglishAccording to some of my British friends, that's an oxymoron. π
Calling Prof Higgins ...
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February 9, 2011 at 7:17 am
GilaMonster (2/8/2011)
Jeff Moden (2/8/2011)
Brandie Tarvin (2/8/2011)
proper American EnglishAccording to some of my British friends, that's an oxymoron. π
Absolutely. π
To prove my professionalism, I shall respond to your comments in an adult and mature way.
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February 9, 2011 at 9:17 am
Brandie Tarvin (2/8/2011)
Michael Valentine Jones (2/8/2011)
I think some companies want a college degree just to make sure that you can read and write, since a high school diploma doesnβt seem to ensure that.I know two college instructors who despair that even a college education can't teach this generation of texters and Wikipedia copiers how to read and write proper American English.
The stories I've heard...
I think the difference is that high schools have a lot of political pressure to make sure there is "no one left behind", meaning that every student who doesn't drop out graduates. Parents get upset when their children flunk out, complain to the school board, and then the school board starts looking at school fundingβ¦
In college, there isn't as much pressure to make sure everyone graduates, and entrance exams help to keep out the truly illiterate. Some colleges are diploma mills that are only after the tuition, so a degree is not a guarantee a graduate can read and write.
February 10, 2011 at 8:45 am
I wasn't poor but I could not afford to go to college full-time. I worked 20-30 hours a week, went to college part-time (charging my tuition on a credit card at 19% interest). It took me 7 years just to get an Associates degree.
I got a job in IT the first month after graduating & have been in IT going on 25 years now.
And you're not going to give me an interview because I don't have a B.S.?
You are going to miss out on some very good people.
February 10, 2011 at 9:56 am
Sqlraider (2/10/2011)
And you're not going to give me an interview because I don't have a B.S.?
I sometimes throw away resumes because they are not in good English. I am sure some people think that is unfair.
I sometimes throw away resumes because the experience looks like it is enough, but too focused in a specific (not-relevant) industry.
I'm debating throwing away a DBA resume sitting on my desk right this moment because it is eleven (11!) pages long.
The process of coming to know a candidate is very long, and very time consuming. We all need filters of some sort, and all filters have false positives and false negatives. But no filters are not an option.
PS. I realize I did not answer your question, as your question was really rhetorical.
February 10, 2011 at 10:41 am
At 11 pages, it better have a better plot, more engaging bad guy, and a more exciting hero, than most resumes I've read! π
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February 10, 2011 at 10:58 am
I understand. I wasn't expecting a direct answer.
I just strongly believe that you should not throw out a resume just because the applicant does not have a B.S., experience has to count for something.
Sorry about ranting but if you can do your job & do it better than most at the end of the day it doesn't matter how many degrees you have.
Like I use to tell my boss. If it was easy everyone would be able to do it.
February 10, 2011 at 11:16 am
Sqlraider (2/10/2011)
I understand. I wasn't expecting a direct answer.I just strongly believe that you should not throw out a resume just because the applicant does not have a B.S., experience has to count for something.
I do not disagree. Write a resume that grabs their attention and makes them forget to check. I mean that literally, not flippantly. If i read a really good resume, I overlook likes of things that might otherwise exclude them.
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