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What's in a name?

  • July 18, 2013 at 8:20 pm

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  • July 18, 2013 at 11:18 pm

    #1633842

    Nice one....

  • July 18, 2013 at 11:22 pm

    #1633844

    Not sure why I did not even bother to read before attempting and marked BIDS 🙂

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  • July 18, 2013 at 11:40 pm

    #1633845

    I select SSDT as now when we open new SQL SERVER 2012 it comes with name Server Server Data Tool so I selected that option but still got wrong :w00t:

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  • July 18, 2013 at 11:54 pm

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    kapil_kk (7/18/2013)

    I select SSDT as now when we open new SQL SERVER 2012 it comes with name Server Server Data Tool so I selected that option but still got wrong :w00t:

    It's not the most recent name 😉

    When you try SQL Server 2014, you have to download SSDTBI yourself (although I expect this will be solved in another CTP release of SQL 2014).

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  • July 19, 2013 at 1:26 am

    #1633863

    For see SSDTBI, you need to install SQL Server 2014 CTP. Remember that you can not install SQL Server 2014 CTP with other SQL server instance, or side by side with other sql server instance. You install it with VM Ware (virtual machine).

    I am still waiting next CTP release, which override this issue 🙂

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  • July 19, 2013 at 2:18 am

    #1633881

    Got it wrong, because 84% got it wrong too 🙂

    BIDS will stay among the folks, as shorter it is as easier to use.

    However thank you!

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  • July 19, 2013 at 2:21 am

    #1633883

    So with SQL2012 it's called SSDT, but for SQL2014, which isn't out yet, it's called SSDTBI? Or is that over-simplifying 😉

  • July 19, 2013 at 2:25 am

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    IgorMi (7/19/2013)

    BIDS will stay among the folks, as shorter it is as easier to use.

    +1

    Don't understand the logic of the insistance on renaming something that everyone is happy with - except maybe someone who is probably in marketing!!! This reminds me of the confuision behind "cubes" and "symantic layer" (well almost!!!)

    How long before it is simply reverted back to BIDS???

    :crazy:

  • July 19, 2013 at 2:53 am

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    Toreador (7/19/2013)

    So with SQL2012 it's called SSDT, but for SQL2014, which isn't out yet, it's called SSDTBI? Or is that over-simplifying 😉

    That's oversimplifying 😀 SSDTBI (the one for Visual Studio 2012) can be downloaded seperately and be used for SQL Server 2012 as well.

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  • July 19, 2013 at 2:56 am

    #1633889

    Yep missed that as well. And more fool me someone had said about VS 2012 being different - must have coffee before answering QotD! I haven't upgraded VS to 2012 yet.

    SSDTBI just doesn't have the same ring to it!

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  • July 19, 2013 at 2:56 am

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    Michael Riemer (7/19/2013)

    IgorMi (7/19/2013)

    BIDS will stay among the folks, as shorter it is as easier to use.

    +1

    Don't understand the logic of the insistance on renaming something that everyone is happy with - except maybe someone who is probably in marketing!!! This reminds me of the confuision behind "cubes" and "symantic layer" (well almost!!!)

    How long before it is simply reverted back to BIDS???

    :crazy:

    You're right, it is crazy. That's the whole point of this QotD. Highlight the "stupidity" of renaming a well known product two times, which leads only to confusion.

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  • July 19, 2013 at 4:30 am

    #1633920

    Sad to get so close (SSDT) and still get it wrong! Good question ...

  • July 19, 2013 at 4:36 am

    #1633924

    renamed to SSDTBI to avoid confusion! could have fooled me.

    So with SQL2012 and 2014 install media we dont get the option to install the BIDS equivalent? that sounds a backward step. Or have I misunderstood?

    Are SSDT and SSDTBI separate things? which one do I install for developing SSIS packages?

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  • July 19, 2013 at 5:00 am

    #1633929

    Should have been back to BIDS instead of SSDTBI. we call simply BI Tool

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