What will this return?

  • Hugo Kornelis (5/24/2010)


    CirquedeSQLeil (5/24/2010)


    I see both sides of it. You, Trey and Hugo all have valid points.

    Please, don't let that discourage you from submitting more questions.

    +1 on all points made by Jason (especially the "don't let that discourage" part - this audience has a tendency to scare off those who contribute freely...)

    Thanks Hugo.

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  • bkubicek (5/24/2010)


    You are welcome.

    Thanks for not complaining about the formatting.

    If I do another Question of the day I will have to watch my formatting.

    Ben

    Definately do another QOD. Don't pay too much attention to my complaining. 😉 Honestly I really appreciate the effort of the people who come up with these questions.

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  • I really just guessed after about 30 seconds of trying to follow the logic. Only off by 1.0000!

  • Kenneth J. Moore (5/24/2010)


    I really just guessed after about 30 seconds of trying to follow the logic. Only off by 1.0000!

    Yeah that was me too. I looked at the date parsing stuff, got bored and skipped it, guessed it would be an integer division thing and took a guess at zero.

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  • The integer division thing in general for me is often one of those "so simple you missed it situations". I'd be interested in what is considered best practice in real life for doing this properly.

    To use this example:

    select @hourDiff = @min-2 / cast(60 as numeric(10,4))

    and

    select @hourDiff = cast(@min as numeric(10,4)) / 60

    Both give me 1.5. Which one of these options is the best way to go, or is there a better way of handling this issue?

  • marklegosz (5/25/2010)


    The integer division thing in general for me is often one of those "so simple you missed it situations". I'd be interested in what is considered best practice in real life for doing this properly.

    To use this example:

    select @hourDiff = @min-2 / cast(60 as numeric(10,4))

    and

    select @hourDiff = cast(@min as numeric(10,4)) / 60

    Both give me 1.5. Which one of these options is the best way to go, or is there a better way of handling this issue?

    There is no real difference between the two. As soon as one of the operands for the diivision is numeric, the other will be converted to numeric as well. You can use what pleases your eyes the most.


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  • Why wouldn't you just divide by 60.0?

    As soon as you add the .0 is becomes numeric.

    Ben

  • bkubicek (5/25/2010)


    Why wouldn't you just divide by 60.0?

    As soon as you add the .0 is becomes numeric.

    Ben

    If numeric(3,1) works, then 60.0 is as good as any of the other options. If you need the precision of a numeric(10,4), the explicit cast is the way to go.


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  • Hugo,

    It is the precision of the variable you are putting the value into that matter. @min-2 is a numeric(10,4), so you will get your four decimal places using plain old 60.0.

    Ben

  • Hi,

    select command in the code is used for assginign variables not to print any output.

    the given code won't return any value.

    Thanks,

    RajaSekhar Reddy .K

  • bkubicek (5/25/2010)


    Hugo,

    It is the precision of the variable you are putting the value into that matter. @min-2 is a numeric(10,4), so you will get your four decimal places using plain old 60.0.

    Ben

    I assume you meant to write that @hourDiff is nummeric(10,4); @min-2 is an integer. If that is what you meant, then you are right that the end result will always be converted to numeric(10,4). But intermediate results use a different precision; the casting to the target data type of numeric(10, 4) is the final step.

    Run the following code to see how the data types used for the operands of the division affect the length and precision of the intermediate result. In this case, since the division result is exactly 1.5, there will not be any net effect. But there are cases where the number of decimals used in the intermediate result may affect the end result. (Keep in mind that the division result will be truncated to the precision of the intermediate result, which will then be rounded to the precision of the variable).

    The difference will never be more than 0.0001, which admittedly is not significant in most cases. But in those cases where that difference is important, the difference between "60.0" and "CAST(60 AS numeric(10,4))" does matter.


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  • Rajasekhar Reddy (5/26/2010)


    Hi,

    select command in the code is used for assginign variables not to print any output.

    the given code won't return any value.

    Thanks,

    RajaSekhar Reddy .K

    That is entirely correct. Of course, the question was "what result will @hourdiff hold?", not "what will be returned when you run this code", so I fail to see the significance of this observation.


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  • What Hugo said. 🙂

  • I got it wrong. I answered "purple". :doze:

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  • The Dixie Flatline (5/26/2010)


    I got it wrong. I answered "purple". :doze:

    *sound of a mouthful of tea hitting an LCD screen at high speed*

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