June 30, 2010 at 10:57 am
Sadowy,
I think it is very common for the questions/answers to be corrected/edited between when they are email and when you may get to the web site. Being on the west coast of the US corrections are normally made before I get up and attempt the question.
Given that I don't pay much attention to the question in the email, I always read and answer what is on the web site.
June 30, 2010 at 11:16 am
sadowy (6/30/2010)
I object.The question presented in the email had:
mainkey int not null identity (-1,1)
but the code in the question and answer on the web site had:
mainkey int not null identity (-1,-1)
EDIT: Removing grumpy comment that I added. Sorry, it has been a tough day.
The reason the email and question are different is explained in the 13 previous pages. You probably do not have to look much past page 2.
June 30, 2010 at 2:19 pm
This may have been covered but can someone tell me why the answer says the order will be -1,-2,-3 since in the create table NO PK IS DEFINED? I understand that this is the order the data was inserted, but without a PK or more specificly a clustered index how can you be assured of the data sort order.
June 30, 2010 at 2:40 pm
badatthis: Yes, that issue has been brought up more than once. And I think it goes further than that, even with a PK/clustered index you aren't guaranteed a sort order unless you specify ORDER BY in your SELECT statement. (If I am wrong on this can somebody correct me?)
June 30, 2010 at 4:06 pm
UMG Developer (6/30/2010)
badatthis: Yes, that issue has been brought up more than once. And I think it goes further than that, even with a PK/clustered index you aren't guaranteed a sort order unless you specify ORDER BY in your SELECT statement. (If I am wrong on this can somebody correct me?)
no you're right.
July 1, 2010 at 9:08 am
Create Table MyTable
(
mainkey int not null identity (-1,-1)
)
GO
insert into MyTable default values
insert into MyTable default values
insert into MyTable default values
Select * from MyTable
== > ok in that case mainkey will increase by -1 ,
it will show -1,
-1+(-1)=-2
-2 + (-1) =-3
and so on
July 1, 2010 at 10:07 am
UMG Developer (6/28/2010)
Also, if the identity increment was -1, then both option 1 and 3 would be correct, as there is no clustered index to order it, and no ORDER BY statement specified, so either -1, -2, -3 or -3, -2, -1 could be the result.
+1
Without explicit ORDER BY, there is no way we can predict the order. We could get any permutation, such as 1-,-3,-2 or -2,-1,-3 and so on.
Can you fix the incorrect multiple choice?
July 1, 2010 at 12:09 pm
Added an order by to the question.
July 2, 2010 at 9:28 am
Thank you Steve!
July 15, 2010 at 12:49 am
Nice question. now I got clear idea on Identity(seed, increment). Thanks
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