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What kind of DBA are you?

  • April 6, 2008 at 10:39 pm

    #798930

    Jeff Moden (4/6/2008)

    Heh... I handed Babbage gears 😉

    Good one. 🙂

    I was serious about my Uncle though, he really did do all of that stuff.

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  • April 7, 2008 at 12:13 am

    #798958

    Sequel. Just because it rolls off the tongue easier.

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  • April 7, 2008 at 3:27 am

    #799000

    I'm going to be self-conscious whenever I talk about work for the rest of the day :unsure:. I know I use both interchangeably, but I can't figure out under what circumstances I use one or the other.

    The problem I always have is with the indefinite article. If you're an (!) S.Q.L.er, then you would say "an SQL database", but if you're a Sequel-er, then you would say "a SQL database". When you're writing, what should you do? Either way, you're going to annoy someone!

  • April 7, 2008 at 5:51 am

    #799043

    Either way, you're going to annoy someone!

    Not to worry... Anyone who actually takes the time to get upset at either isn't someone you have to worry about offending because, although some of us say it one way or another, anyone worth their salt understands that both are common and won't get upset about something so silly. Certainly no reason to be self conscious. 😛

    --Jeff Moden

    RBAR is pronounced "ree-bar" and is a "Modenism" for Row-By-Agonizing-Row.
    First step towards the paradigm shift of writing Set Based code:
    ________Stop thinking about what you want to do to a ROW... think, instead, of what you want to do to a COLUMN.

    Change is inevitable... Change for the better is not.

    Helpful Links:
    How to post code problems
    How to Post Performance Problems
    Create a Tally Function (fnTally)

  • April 7, 2008 at 5:57 am

    #799044

    rbarryyoung (4/6/2008)

    Jeff Moden (4/6/2008)

    Heh... I handed Babbage gears 😉

    Good one. 🙂

    I was serious about my Uncle though, he really did do all of that stuff.

    I have no doubt and that's something to be very proud of. It was the very beginning of an exciting age. I remember them showing Eniac on the B/W and talking about how someday, we'd each have a home computer although it would fill a small room. They had no idea how small things would actually get because the transistor still hadn't gained a commercial foot hold.

    --Jeff Moden

    RBAR is pronounced "ree-bar" and is a "Modenism" for Row-By-Agonizing-Row.
    First step towards the paradigm shift of writing Set Based code:
    ________Stop thinking about what you want to do to a ROW... think, instead, of what you want to do to a COLUMN.

    Change is inevitable... Change for the better is not.

    Helpful Links:
    How to post code problems
    How to Post Performance Problems
    Create a Tally Function (fnTally)

  • April 7, 2008 at 6:32 am

    #799056

    Andrew Watson (4/7/2008)

    Either way, you're going to annoy someone!

    Agreed.

  • April 7, 2008 at 7:50 am

    #799131

    Andrew Watson (4/7/2008)

    I'm going to be self-conscious whenever I talk about work for the rest of the day :unsure:. I know I use both interchangeably, but I can't figure out under what circumstances I use one or the other.

    The problem I always have is with the indefinite article. If you're an (!) S.Q.L.er, then you would say "an SQL database", but if you're a Sequel-er, then you would say "a SQL database". When you're writing, what should you do? Either way, you're going to annoy someone!

    Technically, you could write "a(n) SQL database". That works for both. But I would find that annoying, so don't do it. (There, now you have no solution but to annoy someone. With that out of the way, do whichever you like.)

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  • April 7, 2008 at 8:07 am

    #799158

    rbarryyoung (4/6/2008)

    Heh, you should meet my Uncle. He taught me to program when I was 13, but he learned computers as an electronics instructor for the Army Air Force when he was assigned to the Eniac project where he worked for the likes of Grace Hopper and John Von Neuman.

    Very cool indeed.

    I worked on ENIAC as a student. Of course, by then, it was a VAX system running UNIX with individual VM's, EMACS, ANSI C; it was also a fraction of the city block it used to take up. There was this toy of a product being released (Windows), which was a poor-man's version of the "Holy Grail" at the time - the Mac Quadra....:)

    They still kept one room full of the old equipment, and had the infamous "bug" under glass.... very cool stuff.

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  • April 7, 2008 at 9:16 am

    #799239

    Hah, I worked with a disk drive you could see spinning.

    Ok, it was old when I saw it, but the nuclear plant had this old computer used for moving rods and a few things. We used it because it was "certified" for nuclear work, but really read data off it and into PC and VAX systems that then were used by people. the drive was a 1MB drive, and the platter was about 2 ft across. It was under glass and you could see it spin. Very cool.

  • April 7, 2008 at 12:36 pm

    #799344

    I usually say 'sequel'. I can't say I always say 'sequel', but since I read this question I can't pinpoint a time when I've said S-Q-L.

    Barbara

  • April 7, 2008 at 6:36 pm

    #799493

    Jeff Moden (4/7/2008)

    rbarryyoung (4/6/2008)

    Jeff Moden (4/6/2008)

    Heh... I handed Babbage gears 😉

    Good one. 🙂

    I was serious about my Uncle though, he really did do all of that stuff.

    I have no doubt and that's something to be very proud of. It was the very beginning of an exciting age. I remember them showing Eniac on the B/W and talking about how someday, we'd each have a home computer although it would fill a small room. They had no idea how small things would actually get because the transistor still hadn't gained a commercial foot hold.

    It was an exciting time, but it's got nothing on today. Seriously, living in the future rocks.

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    Proactive Performance Solutions, Inc.     [/font]    [font="Verdana"] "Performance is our middle name."[/font]

  • April 7, 2008 at 9:02 pm

    #799521

    FWIW

    I use 'sequel' when I refer to 'sequel server 2005'

    but lapse into the less efficient ess-kue-ell when referring to T-SQL

    typical Libran...a bob each way! :w00t:

  • April 7, 2008 at 9:10 pm

    #799522

    rbarryyoung (4/7/2008)

    Jeff Moden (4/7/2008)

    rbarryyoung (4/6/2008)

    Jeff Moden (4/6/2008)

    Heh... I handed Babbage gears 😉

    Good one. 🙂

    I was serious about my Uncle though, he really did do all of that stuff.

    I have no doubt and that's something to be very proud of. It was the very beginning of an exciting age. I remember them showing Eniac on the B/W and talking about how someday, we'd each have a home computer although it would fill a small room. They had no idea how small things would actually get because the transistor still hadn't gained a commercial foot hold.

    It was an exciting time, but it's got nothing on today. Seriously, living in the future rocks.

    Is anyone else familiar with the "Four Yorkshiremen" sketch from Monty Python? :w00t:

    "we had it tough..." etc

    http://www.phespirit.info/montypython/four_yorkshiremen.htm

  • April 7, 2008 at 9:41 pm

    #799529

    rbarryyoung (4/7/2008)

    It was an exciting time, but it's got nothing on today. Seriously, living in the future rocks.

    The past "rocks", too... had to use rocks because the Abacus hadn't been invented yet... only way I could get the "Tally table" to work was to line the "rocks" up in nice straight rows 😀

    --Jeff Moden

    RBAR is pronounced "ree-bar" and is a "Modenism" for Row-By-Agonizing-Row.
    First step towards the paradigm shift of writing Set Based code:
    ________Stop thinking about what you want to do to a ROW... think, instead, of what you want to do to a COLUMN.

    Change is inevitable... Change for the better is not.

    Helpful Links:
    How to post code problems
    How to Post Performance Problems
    Create a Tally Function (fnTally)

  • April 8, 2008 at 5:27 am

    #799636

    Ivanna Noh (4/7/2008)

    rbarryyoung (4/7/2008)

    Jeff Moden (4/7/2008)

    rbarryyoung (4/6/2008)

    Jeff Moden (4/6/2008)

    Heh... I handed Babbage gears 😉

    Good one. 🙂

    I was serious about my Uncle though, he really did do all of that stuff.

    I have no doubt and that's something to be very proud of. It was the very beginning of an exciting age. I remember them showing Eniac on the B/W and talking about how someday, we'd each have a home computer although it would fill a small room. They had no idea how small things would actually get because the transistor still hadn't gained a commercial foot hold.

    It was an exciting time, but it's got nothing on today. Seriously, living in the future rocks.

    Is anyone else familiar with the "Four Yorkshiremen" sketch from Monty Python? :w00t:

    "we had it tough..." etc

    http://www.phespirit.info/montypython/four_yorkshiremen.htm

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