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hkamal.infoedge SSC Eights! Points: 873 More actions · Answer 1

I think Answer should be "None of the Above" Or we need to change the question

As DiskIO in sp_Who2 means reads and writes combined, not just reads as question asks

Ken SSCoach Points: 17191 More actions · Answer 2

L' Eomot Inversé (9/21/2012)
I used sp_who2 ages ago, and wrote a thing to replace it because sp_who2 didn't do quite what I wanted in some cases (I can't remember what that did, it was so long ago) but now I would use sp_WhoIsActive (available from Adam Machanic's blog) which is rather nice.

Thanks for the link Tom. This does provide more information than sp_who2 and I like the fact that the sql text is part of the output.

TomThomson SSC Guru Points: 104773 More actions · Answer 3

hkamal.infoedge (9/21/2012)
I think Answer should be "None of the Above" Or we need to change the question
As DiskIO in sp_Who2 means reads and writes combined, not just reads as question asks

You should always look at the QotD wording on the website rather than relying on the wording in the daily email, because the website wording gets corrected when an error is noticed whereas there is of course no way of correcting the email wording after the email has been sent. Today, the wording was corrected on the website more than two and a half hours before you commented, so I guess if you'd looked there before answering you would have seen the corrected version.

Tom

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September 21, 2012 at 2:19 pm

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Good question, thanks!

Ford Fairlane SSCertifiable Points: 7664 More actions · Answer 5

Good question, but poorly worded... Disk IO in sp_who2 references reads as well as writes. Bouse points for those who actually got it right for the right reason 🙂

Hope this helps...

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ultimate sql Mr or Mrs. 500 Points: 575 More actions · Answer 6

I agree with all those who got it wrong by saying "None of the above" as the question was not clear about disk IO.

But I got this one right only because my past experience of a similar question which I replied by thinking too much logically. This time I assumed the author is actually referring to the Disk IOs column in result set and got it right. 🙂

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DugyC Hall of Fame Points: 3804 More actions · Answer 7

I'm a bit late to this party as the SSC daily email was blocked by our server due to profanity... :w00t:

I got this "right" but I fundamentally agree with the point of view surrounding "none of the above", although for me the wording of the question had been corrected.

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SQLRNNR SSC Guru Points: 281334 More actions · Answer 8

DugyC (9/24/2012)
I'm a bit late to this party as the SSC daily email was blocked by our server due to profanity... :w00t:

Most excellent. I knew SSC was NSFW :hehe:

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heymiky SSCarpal Tunnel Points: 4875 More actions · Answer 9

Steve Jones - SSC Editor (9/21/2012)
The question was poorly worded and I missed the total disk activity in edit.
The question has been corrected and points awarded back as of a few minutes ago.

The re-worded question only appeared when I answered the question

Steve Jones - SSC Editor SSC Guru Points: 736068 More actions · Answer 10

SQLDBA360 (9/26/2012)
Steve Jones - SSC Editor (9/21/2012)
The question was poorly worded and I missed the total disk activity in edit.
The question has been corrected and points awarded back as of a few minutes ago.
The re-worded question only appeared when I answered the question

That's not possible. If you looked in the newsletter, we can't change that.

However the question as it appears on the question page is the same text (physically) that appears on the explanation page.

TomThomson SSC Guru Points: 104773 More actions · Answer 11

Steve Jones - SSC Editor (9/26/2012)
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Steve Jones - SSC Editor (9/21/2012)
The question was poorly worded and I missed the total disk activity in edit.
The question has been corrected and points awarded back as of a few minutes ago.
The re-worded question only appeared when I answered the question
That's not possible. If you looked in the newsletter, we can't change that.
However the question as it appears on the question page is the same text (physically) that appears on the explanation page.

Actually it is possible unless you hold locks over user interactions (ie do what used to be called "multi-phase transactions) which would surprise me more than somewhat. Someone brings up the question page and gets version 1 of the text; spends some time looking at the text (or maybe gets distracted - called away to a meeting - and comes back hours later - the same text is still on his screen when he unlocks it) and in the meantime, the text gets updated; he then hits submit and gets the explanation page, which has the new text on it.

The reason I would be surprised if you hold locks over user interactions is that the lock hold time goes up quite crazily, with appalling results for performance. People have been teaching "avoid it wherever possible (and implement mechanisms to avoid undesirable consequences)" since the days or hierarchical and network databases, and most people in RDBMS caught on pretty early. I know that SQL Server Central's website implementation got the message (least partially) because we see all those "lost the session" messages (OK) and all those quote the wrong message tricks the system plays on us (not so OK).

Tom

Steve Jones - SSC Editor SSC Guru Points: 736068 More actions · Answer 12

True, but that isn't a lock on a user interaction. That's a user downloading the page and holding it indefinitely.

In that case you could see something different. My point was the question text on the answer page and the question page are the same fields in the database. We don't do any copy of the data to another field for the answer/explanation.

TomThomson SSC Guru Points: 104773 More actions · Answer 13

Steve Jones - SSC Editor (9/26/2012)
True, but that isn't a lock on a user interaction.

I thought that was what I said.:-P

Tom