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    "The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood"
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  • I see no reason not to be in Azure with my warehouse. I'm trying to do all I that I can to get there. The problem is, budgets already been decided for the year! 😛

  • Grant, you were right all along...we just needed to catch up 😉

    I believed that all these online services (including Visual Studio Online) were a good long term bet. It has just been a question of when for me. I couldn't guess whether it would be 2 years or 20. I am the worlds worst predictor.

    Gaz

    -- Stop your grinnin' and drop your linen...they're everywhere!!!

  • DBAs are somewhat reactionary in technology adaptation.

    That being said, are there any market share reports on the adaptation you are talking about?

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  • robert.sterbal 56890 (3/14/2016)


    DBAs are somewhat reactionary in technology adaptation.

    That being said, are there any market share reports on the adaptation you are talking about?

    I've seen some, but none I trust yet. No, I'm just going off of anecdotal evidence at the moment. However, it's pretty strong evidence. I'm seeing it all over the place, more and more. I've also seen naysayers that are now advertising their "Azure Expertise" (although how you get expertise in 2-3 months, I'm not sure). I'd like to see some good research on that actual market penetration, but I haven't seen it yet.

    "The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood"
    - Theodore Roosevelt

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    SQL Server Query Performance Tuning

  • I guess I'd want to know who they are competing with as well.

    I can't tell if Microsoft is mostly trying to avoid customer defections, seriously compete for share or grow a new market.

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  • Please, can you share links for trial deployment tutorials

  • Grant Fritchey (3/14/2016)


    robert.sterbal 56890 (3/14/2016)


    DBAs are somewhat reactionary in technology adaptation.

    That being said, are there any market share reports on the adaptation you are talking about?

    I've seen some, but none I trust yet. No, I'm just going off of anecdotal evidence at the moment. However, it's pretty strong evidence. I'm seeing it all over the place, more and more. I've also seen naysayers that are now advertising their "Azure Expertise" (although how you get expertise in 2-3 months, I'm not sure). I'd like to see some good research on that actual market penetration, but I haven't seen it yet.

    What? You haven't seen my 7 years commercial experience of SQL Server Azure 2075 on LinkedIn? Must remember to updated it!!!

    I am coming across more and more interest and quite a bit of anecdotal evidence of adoption. It feels true.

    Gaz

    -- Stop your grinnin' and drop your linen...they're everywhere!!!

  • kradi (3/14/2016)


    Please, can you share links for trial deployment tutorials

    There are free trials available: https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/pricing/free-trial/

    If you have an MSDN license, you have up to $150 of credit, monthly, to experiment and learn about Azure.

    "The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood"
    - Theodore Roosevelt

    Author of:
    SQL Server Execution Plans
    SQL Server Query Performance Tuning

  • robert.sterbal 56890 (3/14/2016)


    I guess I'd want to know who they are competing with as well.

    Everyone. But primarily Amazon. They're the other big player in hosted services.

    I can't tell if Microsoft is mostly trying to avoid customer defections, seriously compete for share or grow a new market.

    I'm pretty sure Azure is about all three, but primarily, grow a new market.

    "The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood"
    - Theodore Roosevelt

    Author of:
    SQL Server Execution Plans
    SQL Server Query Performance Tuning

  • Gary Varga (3/14/2016)


    Grant Fritchey (3/14/2016)


    robert.sterbal 56890 (3/14/2016)


    DBAs are somewhat reactionary in technology adaptation.

    That being said, are there any market share reports on the adaptation you are talking about?

    I've seen some, but none I trust yet. No, I'm just going off of anecdotal evidence at the moment. However, it's pretty strong evidence. I'm seeing it all over the place, more and more. I've also seen naysayers that are now advertising their "Azure Expertise" (although how you get expertise in 2-3 months, I'm not sure). I'd like to see some good research on that actual market penetration, but I haven't seen it yet.

    What? You haven't seen my 7 years commercial experience of SQL Server Azure 2075 on LinkedIn? Must remember to updated it!!!

    I am coming across more and more interest and quite a bit of anecdotal evidence of adoption. It feels true.

    Good to know. I agree of course. How can I argue with that resume.

    "The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood"
    - Theodore Roosevelt

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    SQL Server Execution Plans
    SQL Server Query Performance Tuning

  • Grant, in my view what has slowed adoption is how long its taken to get to a "real" version of SQL in the cloud (arguably v12). Before that a lot of snake oil was peddled. Wasn't there a point where they explained that you didnt need to worry about backups? I'd even argue that the branding is bad/confusing. If we added "Cloud" as an edition instead of a different name, it would be more familiar to both DBA's and the businesses they need to advise.

    As far as EARTHED, that's a term I'm not fond of because it feels like a sly way of saying old school, or worse. Customers should pick the solution that fits them. Some will adopt changes sooner rather than later, some will have no need to adopt them at all. What happens when someone runs AzureOS in their own data center? It that still cloud, earthed, or just foggy?

  • Andy Warren (3/14/2016)


    Grant, in my view what has slowed adoption is how long its taken to get to a "real" version of SQL in the cloud (arguably v12). Before that a lot of snake oil was peddled. Wasn't there a point where they explained that you didnt need to worry about backups? I'd even argue that the branding is bad/confusing. If we added "Cloud" as an edition instead of a different name, it would be more familiar to both DBA's and the businesses they need to advise.

    As far as EARTHED, that's a term I'm not fond of because it feels like a sly way of saying old school, or worse. Customers should pick the solution that fits them. Some will adopt changes sooner rather than later, some will have no need to adopt them at all. What happens when someone runs AzureOS in their own data center? It that still cloud, earthed, or just foggy?

    Foggy.

    But you're right, earthed as a term has to go now when Azure service runs locally, it no longer means anything.

    "The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood"
    - Theodore Roosevelt

    Author of:
    SQL Server Execution Plans
    SQL Server Query Performance Tuning

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