The Hassles of Travel

  • Suite? Who gets a suite?

    Room, bed, shower, that's about it.

  • Steve Jones - Editor (1/16/2009)


    Suite? Who gets a suite?

    Room, bed, shower, that's about it.

    You're doing it wrong!

    😀

    If you're not getting a suite (or staying @ the Holiday Inn, even in a suite), I can understand why travel is miserable for you. Even if the company or client won't spring for full freight on a decent place, spend your own cash! Ideally, use your timeshare to swap for something, or find a good corporate condo rental.

    I'd rather pitch my own tent @ the nearest KoA than stay in most any hotel priced below $100/night. There are a few hotel chains that cater to business travellers and those are generally tolerable for less than that. Of course, there are some parts of the world where only subsistence-level accommodations can be had... Hence the need for proper tents and comfortable air mattresses.

    :hehe:

  • Not worth it to me, I'd rather stay home. Plus I find I work a lot, rarely am in the room other than sleep, so I don't care much for the amenities.

    Treadmill nearby is my biggest concern.

  • I don't get a suite, but I like to stay at the Marriot Hotels (Courtyard, Fairfield Inn, Springhill Suites). I avoid places like Days Inn.

    Steve,

    Have a safe trip.

  • Many eons ago I worked at the development laboratories of a fortune 500 corporation. As such over a 13 year period of time I flew 1,300,000 (one million 300 hundred thousand) miles, and that not much more or less than most of the 50 engineers at the lab, which was located a mere 20 minute car ride from downtown Manhattan (New York City). To make travel easier on our customers, and hopefully to instill in them the same hospitality we followed this procedure:

    If a guest arrived for either a Friday or Monday meeting we were to assume that they planned their trip, to include their wives to have a tourist weekend on the town. As such we asked them their arrival date and if our assumptions were correct invited them and their significant other to a Broadway show and dinner. If they accepted, our wives were expected to accompany us. If it were a Monday business meeting our wives were expected to escort the visitors wife on what was generally a shopping tour, visiting Macy's, Tiffany, etc. Of course our wives picked up the noon day meal tab. Now for the best part the company picked up the tab for all of this, including our baby sitter's fee. For those of us who had frequent visitors the company even paid for Workmen's Compensation insurance for us should the baby sitter have an accident.

    My wife was given an expense account to which she could charge a visit to the hair dressers, appropriate clothing, and mileage for driving the family car from our home to my work place.

    Those visitors which schedule Tuesday thru Thursday visits normally did not have their spouses along on the trip, in which case we were expected to invite to a mans night out - yes the company picked up the tab even for the visits to the Playboy Club.

    And the system worked -- when we visited the customers most of them responded with similar treatment of us.

    To make a long story short -- it some what made up for not sleeping in my own bed and being stuck in a inhospitable motel room with just the TV to watch.

    So if you travel enough and have people visiting your work place - see if you can do the same and in that way make travel somewhat less onerous.

    If everything seems to be going well, you have obviously overlooked something.

    Ron

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  • I remember the first time I traveled by air. My boss was supposed to go down to Durban (SA) to do a training session for new clients on our system. Unfortunately he came down with a serious bout of flu and the day before he was scheduled to fly he told me I would have to go. I really hoped that my first flight would be a little more prepared but I went. I was rather nervous especially when I saw the plane that we were gonna fly in. The client paid for the trip so it was the cheapest airways in South Africa. However, the takeoff was such a rush that I immediately became addicted. Yes, the wait in the airport and getting to the airport al that is a shlep but the rest is a pleasure. I suppose that when a person flies a lot you will get tired of it. I mostly travel on four wheels on the ground. Two wheels make me too nervous especially over long distances.

    For me I think it's being out of my routine

    Yes, that as well and I am not a person that can chat away with strange people and I just love my routine. I think us IT people have to careful though because we can tend to become anti-social. I know I do.

    :-PManie Verster
    Developer
    Johannesburg
    South Africa

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  • Steve Jones - Editor (1/16/2009)


    Suite? Who gets a suite?

    Room, bed, shower, that's about it.

    That's better than a friend who worked for a really cheap company that expected employees to share rooms when travelling. I would probably pay the difference out of my own pocket before I would share with another employee.

    Steve, it wasn't that long ago that many hotels in the UK had the toilet and bath down the hall, neither of them heated. Nothing like taking a lukewarm shower when the room is 45 degrees, and the one towel you get is half as large as is really required. That's 7 degrees C for the rest of the world.

  • bitbucket (1/16/2009)


    ...yes the company picked up the tab even for the visits to the Playboy Club....it some what made up for not sleeping in my own bed.....

    Hey, that misquote button can be really fun sometimes 😀

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  • I like being in different places, but I feel the increasing hassle of getting there is a big discouragement.

    For me, airports offer about the worst customer service on the planet. They do not value the main thing I have in limited supply - time.

    London has 4 intercontinental airports airports, but none of them compete to get my custom. It is always a take it or leave it service, which I am increasingly leaving and making journeys that do not involve flying.

    For me, a guarantee that I can get from terminal door to airplane door in a set time while minimising idle time is something I will respond to. If an airport operator cared for its customers, got things organised to give a 90-minute terminal door to airplane door for departures, and 90 minute airplane door to terminal door for arrivals, I would aim to fly from there. Even to the point of not booking a slightly cheaper flight from somewhere else where I have to spend an hour or two just waiting.

    For airport operators to say they cannot cope with security or customs delays is plain incompetance. They work with national governments in many other ways, so these issues can be sorted if there is a desire to do so.

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  • EdVassie (1/19/2009)


    For airport operators to say they cannot cope with security or customs delays is plain incompetance. They work with national governments in many other ways, so these issues can be sorted if there is a desire to do so.

    In the US, the airport operator is completely at the mercy of the government provided customs and security officials. I've been travelling where a passenger ahead of me in the US Customs line had an issue of some sort that stopped everyone from moving for 20 or 20 minutes. No one was allowed to move until the issue was sorted and the passengers moved to a separate room. On other occasions, there weren't enough passport officials to process three 747's full of passengers at the same time. Again, screaming by the airport operator isn't going to change anything.

    With respect to outgoing passenger screening, again, in the US, the airport operaotr is at the mercy of the TSA. If TSA doesn't provide enough staff to screen passengers quickly, the lines will be longer. The airport operator has nothing to do with screening, it's a government function in the US.

    In the UK, I have checked in and made it through security in 10 minutes at both Heathrow and Gatwick. On other occasions, especially in the peak Summer travel season, it has taken over an hour. This is largely a function of airport size, which is not easily changed by the aiport operator, especially in the UK where it can take years to get permission to do an expansion, and additional years to actually construct.

  • For me, the issue to the airport operator being at the mercy of what the government provides in terms of staff is a cop-out. The airport is an entrepot to the country's economy, and it is up to the airport operator and the government to get themselves organised. Governments agree that one of their main functions is to protect the country's economy, and where their procedures (e.g. persistant lack of staff) pervent this, they need to be constantly reminded about it.

    If airport operators put as much effort into easing the passenger journey through the airport as they do to many other areas of their business, these problems would be quickly solved.

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  • Man, I hate travelling, nothing goes right for me when I travel. Lost luggage, delays, missed connections!

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