The Case of the Lost Card

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  • As to the method of issue, working freelance I have worked at a range of sights and I am quite happy with the "get a day pass from reception" because, generally, like most people I rarely forget and I appreciate how important security is. Can you really say you are taking all necessary actions to protect the data if anyone can walk through the building? I think not.

    My preferred method of on site card carrying is either lanyard or on a reel. My least favourite are the plastic holders (which rip) with the metal clips (which hold onto nothing).

    Gaz

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  • In my industry now, there is a much different emphasis. If you forget your badge in most places, you are denied entry, period. Entry requires the badge and then other bio-ID means of access, so without the badge you have a non-starter.

  • I have a barcoded photo ID that I wear on a reel as well as a fob for door and printer access.

    Lost cards are $25.

    People share fobs and knock on doors all the time...it really irritates me.

  • As a consultant I've seen many scenarios.

    In some cases the card the card is only necessary to get in. In other cases you need the card as well to go to different floors and use the elevator.

    I keep the card usually in my wallet which makes sure I almost never forgot them.

    The few times I did forget them (and thus also my wallet), I just checked in at the reception and they gave me a visitors pass. Not really top secret facilities I was working in 🙂

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  • I have a card with my photo. It opens the door but don't need it for elevators. It gets deactivated when lost and am issued a new one at no cost. It is supposed to be displayed at all times.

  • Here a lost card is quickly replaceable at HR (I think they charge a few bucks as a deterrent but not sure how much). You can get in at the security office to go to HR.

    The concern here is mostly about outsiders. The majority of employees recognize each other anyhow.

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  • I'm hoping security will be tougher if top secret stuff going on!

  • Andy Warren (10/14/2013)


    I'm hoping security will be tougher if top secret stuff going on!

    Most likely.

    A colleague of mine had to do a project at a more top secret client, and they did a background check of him, his family and friends.

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  • For us, we have security issue a temporary card when you forget yours, If you have lost it they will deactivate the old one and print and issue a new one. Being the person who works with our system I can tell you the proximity badges do cost roughly $5 each. We are contemplating charging for replacements. Our previous system used barcodes and only cost about 25 cents each to print so it wasn't as big a deal to replace them.

  • In the skyscraper where my company is HQ'ed the leasing office requires mag locks and oversees the door cards. Our suite is always locked. Occasionally executives come for a visit or someone forgets their card (usually on a Monday). We have a spare for these occasions, although it wouldn't kill us to burn a calorie answering the door.

    It is a small company and we all know each other. We can hear someone knocking on the door. So - the cards really aren't the problem. The building-required mag locks are.

    2 of the other companies on our floor have "public reception" doors that aren't locked during business hours. Sometimes on sort-of holidays like today (Columbus Day) the leasing office forgets to re-program the maglocks on those public doors - leaving them unlocked until business hours are over. It has happened often enough that the receptionist next door cc's me on her requests to the leasing office to have the door locked on odd days. I set a calendar reminder to go over and tug on their public door. Twice (of about 20 times) I've found it unlocked and sent a reminder to the leasing office.

    As ever security is only as good as the humans running it.

  • I jave a fob on my keychain, card on my wallet and mobile credential on my phone. I use the fob and smartphone credentials the most.

  • I used to work for a Giant Entity in one of their accounting centers. During my first stint there badges were required but not enforced. After the first Gulf War started, doors were locked 24/7 and the badge requirements were enforced. If you forgot your badge The Gatekeeper (really nice lady that took gruff from noone - even the center manager) would stop you and make you wear a bright yellow "forgotten badge" badge. It was really hard to slip by her - she'd somehow nail you even if you used the back door.

    I currently work for a small company where we keep the doors locked 24/7, but a good rap on the door will bring somebody to let you in. As a small company that deals with HIPAA related data, though, no visitors are left alone.

  • We have a card with photo id, I carry mine on a lanyard with a reel so I don't have to bow to open the door. Not sure why they are lower than waist high. Lost cards cost $25 to replace. If you forget your card the guard will buzz you in and you need to sign in. If you forget your card a lot within a 6 month period it'll show up on your review.

  • The building has a guard on duty at the building entrance 24x7. Everyone has to use their card to enter the building through a turnstile, and everyone has to use their card to enter the datacenter. If you forget your card, they issue a temporary one after checking your ID and verifying you against an on-file picture. Your regular card is deactivated until you return the temporary card. Guests are issued a temporary card, good only for that day, and must be signed in by the person they visiting. You are supposed to display your badge at all times, but no one does.

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