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Now the stars point to a participation level. Don't give me a AAA-rating, because all I provide is an option, to the best in my responcetime(frame) and mondaymorning-feeling.
From what I've seen overhere, most of the replies are with the best intentions of the participants. IMHO this incourages participation and exploration.
You'll have to build your participant-reference list based upon you own experiance.
It's not because I find a reply a valid answer to my question, that is it optimal or even acceptable for someone else.
Does this proove I'm still human ?
Johan
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- How to post data/code to get the best help[/url]- How to prevent a sore throat after hours of presenting ppt
press F1 for solution, press shift+F1 for urgent solution 😀
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I think, I have seen in some forums a functionality like 'View accepted answer' or alike. This might go into the direction of the original question.
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[sic] Based on the accumulated points the Stars should be given like most other sites.Just out of curiosity can you give examples of sites with that functionality?
Frank
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In http://www.tek-tips.com the orginator can mark accepted/usefull solutions (multiple) and based on that the points are awarded. They have Annual and Monthly Contests. Even in few other sites its done.
After seeing all the valuable post i too think that the current system is neat and simple. KISS technology.
Edited by - edwin_fredrick on 12/29/2003 06:37:34 AM
Edited by - edwin_fredrick on 12/29/2003 06:43:10 AM
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If stars are meant to show the level of commitment/contribution to this forum and not necessarily the level of knowledge, perhaps the problem lies in the labels. Labels such as "Active poster" are a fairly accurate description but perhaps the label "Guru" should be replaced with something less indicative of knowledge. Five stars indicates that the person has been around this community for a while and has contributed a lot, not that he necessarily knows more than a poster with no stars.
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Hey, what about a custom title?
Frank
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In http://www.tek-tips.com the orginator can mark accepted/usefull solutions (multiple) and based on that the points are awarded. They have Annual and Monthly Contests. Even in few other sites its done.I am also a member of TEK-TIPS and I have seen the original poster of a question get a star! That takes away the value of the star when someone who doesn't even provide a useful response can get a star.
-SQLBill
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proposition:
4 stars = SQLSir
5 stars = SQLKnight/SQLord
6 stars = SQLSaint
I guess an indication based on # of accepted responses might be preferable over a "rating" but even then ...
Johan
Learn to play, play to learn !Dont drive faster than your guardian angel can fly ...
but keeping both feet on the ground wont get you anywhere :w00t:- How to post Performance Problems
- How to post data/code to get the best help[/url]- How to prevent a sore throat after hours of presenting ppt
press F1 for solution, press shift+F1 for urgent solution 😀
Need a bit of Powershell? How about this
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7 stars = SQL Server Prophet
8 stars = SQL Server Almighty
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getting into blasphemy
As for SQLBill:
Couldn't a good question be worth a point?
Is this discussion on 0 - 5 stars really that important?
Do people really look on how much stars a poster has, before accepting an answer?
Why not simply leave it as it is?
Frank
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I'm one to discount the stars other more than a way of making someone feel like they've "played a part" in the community. It's a nice warm fuzzy to see your stars increment. Frank has been better at this than anyone else, but it's a nice thing to do to congratulate someone upon reaching a particular star level.
As for the value of the solution, I always examine and do my research. I would hope that others do the same for any advice I post. I'm human and prone to error, despite any value from my previous posts. If something I say doesn't make sense, I'm glad we have such a great community here to correct my error so the original poster isn't led astray (though I try my best with my answers). Therefore, while I see some value in the number of stars = quality of advice, I don't know how much it'll actually add on a site like this where there are quite a few knowledgeable folks reviewing the postings.
Along those lines, when I see a posting, I don't look at the number of stars, I look at what's being said. I remember when Allen_Cui started posting. He brought a lot of knowledge to the table right away. Same thing with Frank Kalis (though he had a different user name back then). Same thing with Antares. I've only named 3 but there are a ton of folks here who are like this. It doesn't take very long to figure out the stars equate to post count on a site like this, and it's not all that unusual a model.
K. Brian Kelley, GSEC
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I like the title change idea. We'll take a look at that.
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Frank,
Yes a good question that makes people think could be worth a star - if that's the way it's set up. But that doesn't help identify the people who are "stellar" SQL'ers.
I personally ignore the stars. After being a member and both browsing and answering posts, I know who can usually be counted on for the best answers. But that doesn't mean I ignore other respondents. I just weigh the answers based on my knowledge of how the person has answered other posts. However, this requires knowledge of how the poster has done in the past and new members don't have this knowledge. Stars, etc. CAN give a new member some indication of a persons expertise. And that is what a forum/board/whatever really needs to provide - a way for new members to recognize who the 'knowledgable' posters really are.
-SQLBill
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I guess, I'm not the only one who receives subscription mails. I really this feature here. And I read the mails (actually BEFORE going online and reply) when I think that either the topic is of interest to me or I think a can say something to that topic. The mails doesn't state anything about how many stars someone has. I must also admit that I have favorite fellow members. Their posts I keep anyway. Besides the fact that # of posts is somewhat irrelevant. It has been mentioned earlier that noone posts 500 time unusable replies. I think this is correct!
Maybe I am a little bit slow today, but I don't really see the point at all.
But I'm curious what the 'new' titles would look like:
- Frequent poster
- More frequent poster
- Even more frequent poster
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I wouldn't change the whole thing at all.
Btw, there are certain members here around who do post only once in a while, but in their 'real life' are SQL Server MVP's. Does the low number of their posts make their answers less good?
Frank
Aargh, classical mistake!!!
I wouldn't change the whole thing at all
Edited by - Frank Kalis on 12/29/2003 11:39:56 AM
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Im enjoying the conversation. Not sure I see a final answer yet. One thing I see is that as you're a part of the community you begin to get a feel for who is knowledgeable and who is not. Once you read a LOT of posts, you start to get a feel for who is knowledgeable or not based on the question and/or response without even seeing a track history. Good reasons to stay in one place?
Andy
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Yes.
Frank
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Just as an aside, every year in Britain we have the New Years honors list where persons who have made a great contribution to British life get enobled with awards such as OBE (Order of the British Empire), KBE (Knight of the British Empire) etc.
This year there have been a number of refuseniks, one of which said "when I was in the boy-scouts it was nice to get medals and ribbons, but I'm a grown up now"!
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