January 3, 2017 at 6:33 am
I've started playing around with the 'multiple desktop' feature in Windows 10 and have noticed that SSMS 2016 does not seem to 'play nicely' with it.
For example, assume I have desktops 1 and 2 and have SSMS in D1. I move to D2 to type an e-mail and, after a minute or so, SSMS 'follows' me there ... it moves itself from D1 to D2.
Likewise, if I move back to D1, it follows me there too, after a short pause.
Talk about clingy.
MS Office, VS2015 & assorted other apps seem fine so far.
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January 3, 2017 at 6:39 am
I have yet to play with that feature, and as I have multiple monitors, as well as Classic Shell installed and configured to have the task bar appear on all of them, I'm wondering what, if any, benefits there would be, to this feature? I've been away from desktop support for too long to be fully "up to date" on all the latest features and functions, so I'm looking to get an update on this...
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January 3, 2017 at 6:49 am
sgmunson (1/3/2017)
I have yet to play with that feature, and as I have multiple monitors, as well as Classic Shell installed and configured to have the task bar appear on all of them, I'm wondering what, if any, benefits there would be, to this feature? I've been away from desktop support for too long to be fully "up to date" on all the latest features and functions, so I'm looking to get an update on this...
Hi Steve
I also have a multiple-monitor set-up, but this is different.
I'm really just trying it out at the moment, it seems it's a tidy way of keeping personal apps (eg, GMail, Skype etc.) separate from 'office' stuff.
The absence of evidence is not evidence of absence
- Martin Rees
The absence of consumable DDL, sample data and desired results is, however, evidence of the absence of my response
- Phil Parkin
January 3, 2017 at 6:56 am
Phil Parkin (1/3/2017)
sgmunson (1/3/2017)
I have yet to play with that feature, and as I have multiple monitors, as well as Classic Shell installed and configured to have the task bar appear on all of them, I'm wondering what, if any, benefits there would be, to this feature? I've been away from desktop support for too long to be fully "up to date" on all the latest features and functions, so I'm looking to get an update on this...Hi Steve
I also have a multiple-monitor set-up, but this is different.
I'm really just trying it out at the moment, it seems it's a tidy way of keeping personal apps (eg, GMail, Skype etc.) separate from 'office' stuff.
Okay, but as I have zero knowledge on exactly what that feature actually does, I'll ask "how", exactly, it allows you "a tidy way of keeping personal apps (eg, GMail, Skype etc.) separate from 'office' stuff." ?
Steve (aka sgmunson) 🙂 🙂 🙂
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January 3, 2017 at 7:08 am
sgmunson (1/3/2017)
Phil Parkin (1/3/2017)
sgmunson (1/3/2017)
I have yet to play with that feature, and as I have multiple monitors, as well as Classic Shell installed and configured to have the task bar appear on all of them, I'm wondering what, if any, benefits there would be, to this feature? I've been away from desktop support for too long to be fully "up to date" on all the latest features and functions, so I'm looking to get an update on this...Hi Steve
I also have a multiple-monitor set-up, but this is different.
I'm really just trying it out at the moment, it seems it's a tidy way of keeping personal apps (eg, GMail, Skype etc.) separate from 'office' stuff.
Okay, but as I have zero knowledge on exactly what that feature actually does, I'll ask "how", exactly, it allows you "a tidy way of keeping personal apps (eg, GMail, Skype etc.) separate from 'office' stuff." ?
OK. The feature allows the creation of any number of 'virtual desktops'. Each desktop can contain a number of running apps, and these apps appear only in the desktop which is their container (this is where my 'tidy' comment comes from).
Switching between desktops is via Windows/CTRL/Left arrow or Windows/CTRL/Right arrow.
The absence of evidence is not evidence of absence
- Martin Rees
The absence of consumable DDL, sample data and desired results is, however, evidence of the absence of my response
- Phil Parkin
January 3, 2017 at 7:15 am
I'm yet to try out the feature myself, but I imagine it very much to be like the Multiple Desktop functionality that many Linux distributions have had for some time. Opening a "new" desktop effectively hides all the currect windows you had from sight, and the task bar making it appear to be a "fresh" login. Obviously they're still there, but just not visible. Am I correct?
If this a feature that is enabled by default Phil? If so, I'll pull the laptop out (I have Windows 7 on the Desktop) and have a quick experiment myself and see if it happens my end.
Thom~
Excuse my typos and sometimes awful grammar. My fingers work faster than my brain does.
Larnu.uk
January 3, 2017 at 7:20 am
Thom A (1/3/2017)
I'm yet to try out the feature myself, but I imagine it very much to be like the Multiple Desktop functionality that many Linux distributions have had for some time. Opening a "new" desktop effectively hides all the currect windows you had from sight, and the task bar making it appear to be a "fresh" login. Obviously they're still there, but just not visible. Am I correct?If this a feature that is enabled by default Phil? If so, I'll pull the laptop out (I have Windows 7 on the Desktop) and have a quick experiment myself and see if it happens my end.
Hi Thom, you are correct on all counts. Try CTRL/WINDOWS/D to create a new desktop.
The absence of evidence is not evidence of absence
- Martin Rees
The absence of consumable DDL, sample data and desired results is, however, evidence of the absence of my response
- Phil Parkin
January 3, 2017 at 7:50 am
Hmm, interesting. I could replicate the problem, but not with SSMS. Strangely it was Outlook 2016 that wanted my attention. SSMS was happy to plum away
I almost wonder if it's one of those famous "features".
Thom~
Excuse my typos and sometimes awful grammar. My fingers work faster than my brain does.
Larnu.uk
January 3, 2017 at 8:06 am
Thom A (1/3/2017)
Hmm, interesting. I could replicate the problem, but not with SSMS. Strangely it was Outlook 2016 that wanted my attention. SSMS was happy to plum awayI almost wonder if it's one of those famous "features".
That is interesting. I have Outlook 2016 installed and happily stuck in its own desktop. Clearly there's more to this than meets the eye.
The absence of evidence is not evidence of absence
- Martin Rees
The absence of consumable DDL, sample data and desired results is, however, evidence of the absence of my response
- Phil Parkin
January 3, 2017 at 12:11 pm
Phil Parkin (1/3/2017)
Thom A (1/3/2017)
Hmm, interesting. I could replicate the problem, but not with SSMS. Strangely it was Outlook 2016 that wanted my attention. SSMS was happy to plum awayI almost wonder if it's one of those famous "features".
That is interesting. I have Outlook 2016 installed and happily stuck in its own desktop. Clearly there's more to this than meets the eye.
I'm wondering if perhaps there's some kind of default affinity to a given "desktop" for any given application that's affecting things in an unusual way.
Steve (aka sgmunson) 🙂 🙂 🙂
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January 3, 2017 at 12:15 pm
Phil Parkin (1/3/2017)
sgmunson (1/3/2017)
Phil Parkin (1/3/2017)
sgmunson (1/3/2017)
I have yet to play with that feature, and as I have multiple monitors, as well as Classic Shell installed and configured to have the task bar appear on all of them, I'm wondering what, if any, benefits there would be, to this feature? I've been away from desktop support for too long to be fully "up to date" on all the latest features and functions, so I'm looking to get an update on this...Hi Steve
I also have a multiple-monitor set-up, but this is different.
I'm really just trying it out at the moment, it seems it's a tidy way of keeping personal apps (eg, GMail, Skype etc.) separate from 'office' stuff.
Okay, but as I have zero knowledge on exactly what that feature actually does, I'll ask "how", exactly, it allows you "a tidy way of keeping personal apps (eg, GMail, Skype etc.) separate from 'office' stuff." ?
OK. The feature allows the creation of any number of 'virtual desktops'. Each desktop can contain a number of running apps, and these apps appear only in the desktop which is their container (this is where my 'tidy' comment comes from).
Switching between desktops is via Windows/CTRL/Left arrow or Windows/CTRL/Right arrow.
Hmmm... a potentially interesting feature, but I'm not sure there's all that much benefit to me in particular, given that I don't need to separate business from personal on my personal laptop, as it's entirely "personal". Similarly, my work laptop is entirely business. However, that's just me, and as I get most of the benefits from just having Classic Shell installed on my Windows 10 OS, which places a task bar on every monitor all the time, and every app I have active is right there, ready and waiting for me, I've got no reason to inquire much further...
Steve (aka sgmunson) 🙂 🙂 🙂
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January 3, 2017 at 12:25 pm
sgmunson (1/3/2017)
Phil Parkin (1/3/2017)
sgmunson (1/3/2017)
Phil Parkin (1/3/2017)
sgmunson (1/3/2017)
I have yet to play with that feature, and as I have multiple monitors, as well as Classic Shell installed and configured to have the task bar appear on all of them, I'm wondering what, if any, benefits there would be, to this feature? I've been away from desktop support for too long to be fully "up to date" on all the latest features and functions, so I'm looking to get an update on this...Hi Steve
I also have a multiple-monitor set-up, but this is different.
I'm really just trying it out at the moment, it seems it's a tidy way of keeping personal apps (eg, GMail, Skype etc.) separate from 'office' stuff.
Okay, but as I have zero knowledge on exactly what that feature actually does, I'll ask "how", exactly, it allows you "a tidy way of keeping personal apps (eg, GMail, Skype etc.) separate from 'office' stuff." ?
OK. The feature allows the creation of any number of 'virtual desktops'. Each desktop can contain a number of running apps, and these apps appear only in the desktop which is their container (this is where my 'tidy' comment comes from).
Switching between desktops is via Windows/CTRL/Left arrow or Windows/CTRL/Right arrow.
Hmmm... a potentially interesting feature, but I'm not sure there's all that much benefit to me in particular, given that I don't need to separate business from personal on my personal laptop, as it's entirely "personal". Similarly, my work laptop is entirely business. However, that's just me, and as I get most of the benefits from just having Classic Shell installed on my Windows 10 OS, which places a task bar on every monitor all the time, and every app I have active is right there, ready and waiting for me, I've got no reason to inquire much further...
I did not have to install anything special to get multiple taskbars showing in W10. Just right-click / Properties on the taskbar & then check the 'Show taskbar on all displays' checkbox.
The absence of evidence is not evidence of absence
- Martin Rees
The absence of consumable DDL, sample data and desired results is, however, evidence of the absence of my response
- Phil Parkin
January 3, 2017 at 12:41 pm
I use the free applciaiton Dexpot(http://dexpot.de/?lang=en) to manage multiple desktops, instead of anything that is built in. i use it in both Win10 at home and Win7 at work.
Using that application, multiple SSMS stay on each of my desktops unless i specifically right click and send it to another desktop.
I also like how i can change colors/backgrounds of each desktop, and having that optional alias floating at the top of each desktop helps me orient into typical tasks...SSIS. DBA, Main, etc
Lowell
January 4, 2017 at 2:01 pm
Phil Parkin (1/3/2017)
I did not have to install anything special to get multiple taskbars showing in W10. Just right-click / Properties on the taskbar & then check the 'Show taskbar on all displays' checkbox.
I wouldn't want the Windows 10 standard task bar, as it doesn't keep my experience similar to that with Windows 7 and previous OS versions. I grumbled about what Windows 8 did to that, and from my perspective Windows 10 didn't make any improvements, at least as far as the taskbar functionality goes, that I don't get out of using Classic Shell. It's a relatively small program and keeps me in the "old world", just the way I like it. Nice to know, however, that should I ever decide to "heave ho" with Classic Shell, that Windows 10 can at least put a taskbar on every monitor...
Steve (aka sgmunson) 🙂 🙂 🙂
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