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Sparse Columns

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March 4, 2010 at 8:32 pm

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Ron McCullough SSC Guru Points: 63877 More actions · Answer 1

Good question .... learned something from it ...

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SQLRNNR SSC Guru Points: 281334 More actions · Answer 2

Thanks Saurabh, I learned something about sparse columns today.

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March 5, 2010 at 12:13 am

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Good question....learnt from it...tnx

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March 5, 2010 at 12:25 am

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I can get clear idea for this.

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ziangij SSCrazy Eights Points: 8066 More actions · Answer 5

sorry for sounding stupid, but has anybody implemented sparse in his/her code ?

what was the reasoning behind.. is it really worth ?

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March 5, 2010 at 7:52 am

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This is good information. Thanks for the question.

Jamie-2229 SSCrazy Eights Points: 8156 More actions · Answer 7

Guess I am a bit confused by the question

A sparse column must be nullable and cannot have the ROWGUIDCOL or IDENTITY properties. A sparse column cannot be of the following data types: text, ntext, image, timestamp, user-defined data type, geometry, or geography; or have the FILESTREAM attribute.

I'm not sure how something is "defined on them", it may have had a meaning different than the one I read into it. It is clear that a Sparse Column cannot have a Filestream attribute.

There have been times in the past when my sparse sql skills prompted me to look at a Union statement when trying to compare two values that would have best been seen in a left join. The sparse column would have come in handy. It is a good topic. I wonder if we can just reword it slightly... maybe "Can a sparse column have a FileStream Attibute?"

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Oleg Netchaev SSCertifiable Points: 5276 More actions · Answer 8

ziangij (3/5/2010)
sorry for sounding stupid, but has anybody implemented sparse in his/her code ?
what was the reasoning behind.. is it really worth ?

Implementation of the sparse column makes sense only if the data in the column is, well, sparse. This is because it takes more space to store not null values in the sparse columns. For example, character types, such as char and varchar need twice as many bytes to store not null data if the column is defined as sparse. For those types only if 60% or more of all records are nulls then it makes sense to define the respective columns as sparse. For example, many databases storing consumer/customer/person records might end up having a column storing data for so-called address line 2 which will not have any data in the majority of records, which makes such column a good candidate to be defined as sparse.

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Saurabh Dwivedy SSCommitted Points: 1887 More actions · Answer 9

Oleg Netchaev (3/5/2010)
ziangij (3/5/2010)
sorry for sounding stupid, but has anybody implemented sparse in his/her code ?
what was the reasoning behind.. is it really worth ?
Implementation of the sparse column makes sense only if the data in the column is, well, sparse. This is because it takes more space to store not null values in the sparse columns. For example, character types, such as char and varchar need twice as many bytes to store not null data if the column is defined as sparse. For those types only if 60% or more of all records are nulls then it makes sense to define the respective columns as sparse. For example, many databases storing consumer/customer/person records might end up having a column storing data for so-called address line 2 which will not have any data in the majority of records, which makes such column a good candidate to be defined as sparse.
Oleg

Thanks Oleg for providing a relevant example. Appreciate it.

@jamie - You've got a point there. I think the wording could have been more precise. I am studying for the SQL Server MCTS exam and this topic (on sparse columns) came up somewhere. That's how I came up with the question. Not everything will be relevant to everyone. There are some who just like to learn something for the sheer academic pleasure the learning provides. For some it could turn out into a helpful idea to be implemented in a crux situation, perhaps.

Truthfully, I do SQL Server only because I like the subject matter and want to learn it. I have never used Sparse Columns in my actual experience.

This was my first attempt at posting a question on this wonderful forum. I hope to continue learning and wish all of you the same.

Regards

Saurabh

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TomThomson SSC Guru Points: 104773 More actions · Answer 10

Nice question. I hadn't a clue, so today I made time to read all the BOL stuff about FILESTREAM, so today I have learnt more than most days.

Can't imagine why MS decided that columns with filestream values couldn't be sparse, though.

Tom

Paul White SSC Guru Points: 150468 More actions · Answer 11

Lucky guess today. Thanks for making me think about it, though can't imagine it will ever be useful.

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