April 23, 2012 at 10:34 am
To me, it's like having a conversation in a public park with friends. Someone might overhear me, but in general, most of what I say is limited to those to whom I am saying it.
True, but Facebook has a lot people standing around "proverbial trees" with their eyes and ears open. I would not post anything there that was considered even semi-private information at least until they address the security holes. But that's just me.:-D
"Technology is a weird thing. It brings you great gifts with one hand, and it stabs you in the back with the other. ...:-D"
April 23, 2012 at 10:37 am
TravisDBA (4/23/2012)
To me, it's like having a conversation in a public park with friends. Someone might overhear me, but in general, most of what I say is limited to those to whom I am saying it.
True, but Facebook has a lot people standing around "proverbial trees" with their eyes and ears open. I would not post anything there that was considered even semi-private information at least until they address the security holes. But that's just me.:-D
Don't post on Facebook what you wouldn't mind having on a billboard your mother, spouse, boss, and worst enemy all commute past. That's the rule I try to follow. Essentially means I don't post on Facebook....
- Gus "GSquared", RSVP, OODA, MAP, NMVP, FAQ, SAT, SQL, DNA, RNA, UOI, IOU, AM, PM, AD, BC, BCE, USA, UN, CF, ROFL, LOL, ETC
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April 23, 2012 at 10:37 am
Greetings jfogel,
I have one time where I had to choose whether to let go a fight against the actions of a company that I felt did some major wrong or risk the very high stress on my wife who was then pregnant with our child and risk her losing it. We had nothing else to lose. For that situation, I think the value of my child's life was worth way more than any win against a company. Money was not an issue at all. Having a backbone wasn't either. It was just that the benefits of not going to court was much better than possibility losing an innocent life.
Many times, it's not easy to chose the correct path which is why I used the motorcycle analogy. Either way, I lose in the battle. One way, I lose money and character and gain some stress. The other way, I might get some money but I also may lose the life of my unborn child and suffer even more emotional issues.
My apologies if I seem a bit harsh but sometimes the strength is not in attacking your foes for your own glory, but in letting the foe go by so you can save others that would have been hurt by the battle.
April 23, 2012 at 10:54 am
terrance.steadman (4/23/2012)
..My apologies if I seem a bit harsh but sometimes the strength is not in attacking your foes for your own glory, but in letting the foe go by so you can save others that would have been hurt by the battle.
This is, of course, what the bad actors depend on: no one is willing to stand up to them.
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-- FORTRAN manual for Xerox Computers --
April 23, 2012 at 11:00 am
jay-h (4/23/2012)
terrance.steadman (4/23/2012)
..My apologies if I seem a bit harsh but sometimes the strength is not in attacking your foes for your own glory, but in letting the foe go by so you can save others that would have been hurt by the battle.This is, of course, what the bad actors depend on: no one is willing to stand up to them.
Edmung Burke said it well: All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.
But you do have to pick your fights. That's true. It's helpful to make alliances with like-minded people, since groups can fight back better than individuals. But watch out, because the alliances can sometimes turn out worse than what they're fighting against. It's necessary to be vigilant against that kind of thing.
Edit: fix a typo
- Gus "GSquared", RSVP, OODA, MAP, NMVP, FAQ, SAT, SQL, DNA, RNA, UOI, IOU, AM, PM, AD, BC, BCE, USA, UN, CF, ROFL, LOL, ETC
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April 23, 2012 at 11:07 am
jay-h (4/23/2012)
Steve Jones - SSC Editor (4/23/2012)
jay-h (4/23/2012)
A big problem with Facebook, Google etc is they insist on your 'true name' rather than nickname or pseudonym.Not sure you need a "real name". You do need to supply an email, but there are lots of things you don't need to share on there, including your real information. AFAIK, most of it isn't validated outside of an email.
Interesting. I had assumed you could use a fake name with an email. I don't know how they'd catch you, but certainly a lot of what FB provides doesn't work well with a fake name.
April 23, 2012 at 11:09 am
Freddie-304292 (4/23/2012)
And is it defamation if it's true? Whining about work is an important part of socialising and letting off steam, and that should include on private social networks.
What's true? Calling your boss a #$%#@$@# daft, idiot is true? It's an opinion, and it's certainly valid, but are you allowed to say that without any repercussion in the work cafeteria? In the parking lot? I'd argue a lot of what we think is "true" is really our opinion, and it does reflect on the company when we say it. Going around complaining about process, or product, or people, is accepted to some extent, but too much, too loudly, I think would be grounds for termination.
April 23, 2012 at 11:13 am
Don't poop where you eat.
Cheers
April 23, 2012 at 11:54 am
skanker (4/23/2012)
I would be worried if a prospective employee gave me their password for any system (not that I would ask) as this would show a poor attitude to security. Shame on the employers aswell as asking for passwords goes against most internal policies on system security.However that said I can see why an employer would want to know what is going on with a prospective employee - they might rant on facebook about their current employer and also may be members of extremist groups. As an employer I would not want to hire anyone that might have racist tendancies, for example. Like it or not their facebook profile may expose this.
So, are you against giving passwords out, or only OK with it when it is "for the greater good". See current liberal media and government intrusions for examples of why this is risky. If those don't scare you, go back four years and check out those government intrusions.
Dave
Dave
April 23, 2012 at 12:06 pm
As Yuri Orlov (Nicholas Cage) said in the "Lord of War":
"They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails." That movie has some great memorable quotes.:-D
"Technology is a weird thing. It brings you great gifts with one hand, and it stabs you in the back with the other. ...:-D"
April 23, 2012 at 12:24 pm
Steve Jones - SSC Editor (4/23/2012)
jay-h (4/23/2012)
A big problem with Facebook, Google etc is they insist on your 'true name' rather than nickname or pseudonym.Not sure you need a "real name". You do need to supply an email, but there are lots of things you don't need to share on there, including your real information. AFAIK, most of it isn't validated outside of an email.
Several of my friends have had Facebook threaten to close their account for not using their real names. It's a requirement and I believe is in the terms of service agreement.
April 23, 2012 at 12:27 pm
terrance.steadman (4/23/2012)
Greetings jfogel,I have one time where I had to choose whether to let go a fight against the actions of a company that I felt did some major wrong or risk the very high stress on my wife who was then pregnant with our child and risk her losing it. We had nothing else to lose. For that situation, I think the value of my child's life was worth way more than any win against a company. Money was not an issue at all. Having a backbone wasn't either. It was just that the benefits of not going to court was much better than possibility losing an innocent life.
Many times, it's not easy to chose the correct path which is why I used the motorcycle analogy. Either way, I lose in the battle. One way, I lose money and character and gain some stress. The other way, I might get some money but I also may lose the life of my unborn child and suffer even more emotional issues.
My apologies if I seem a bit harsh but sometimes the strength is not in attacking your foes for your own glory, but in letting the foe go by so you can save others that would have been hurt by the battle.
I don't take your words as harsh and I see the wisdom in your point of view. I don't take everything personal nor do I think I need to finish or win every single fight that comes my way. As I wrote, I pick my battles and sometimes I'd be better off having not fought a particular one but I have no regrets.
April 23, 2012 at 12:39 pm
Brandon Leach (4/23/2012)
Steve Jones - SSC Editor (4/23/2012)
jay-h (4/23/2012)
A big problem with Facebook, Google etc is they insist on your 'true name' rather than nickname or pseudonym.Not sure you need a "real name". You do need to supply an email, but there are lots of things you don't need to share on there, including your real information. AFAIK, most of it isn't validated outside of an email.
Several of my friends have had Facebook threaten to close their account for not using their real names. It's a requirement and I believe is in the terms of service agreement.
They must not check this too closely. I have an account under the name "Head Retread". They have never mentioned anything to me about not using my real name. 😀
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April 23, 2012 at 12:41 pm
I would just point out that Facebook's terms of use state the following:
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You will not solicit login information or access an account belonging to someone else.
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You will not share your password, (or in the case of developers, your secret key), let anyone else access your account, or do anything else that might jeopardize the security of your account.
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April 23, 2012 at 12:43 pm
Sean Lange (4/23/2012)
Brandon Leach (4/23/2012)
...They must not check this too closely. I have an account under the name "Head Retread". They have never mentioned anything to me about not using my real name. 😀
I'm sure a lot slips by, at the same time a little search will find many people with foreign names whose accounts have been challenged.
I suppose I could open one as John Smith.
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