June 8, 2004 at 4:16 pm
Yikes!!!! Would describe my first reaction to seeing this tribute to Ronald Reagan. From the African American perspective, Reagan was hardly a president I could hardly get behind and support. It was only fitting that his memorial was held in Simi-valley CA.- you know the place where 12 jurors acquitted the group of L.A. police officers from the brutal beatings that were taped in the Rodney King case.
Yes I know he's not responsible for this but he does represent what we like to call the "Good o'l Boys network". This was something that before the dot.com boom never really existed in the IT world, and is what made it so attractive to me and why I became a DBA. Computer nerd's don't care what race, sexual orientation or religion you are, all we want to know is can you do the work. 🙂
I'm going to have to agree with some of the other members who have posted replies- Politics and religion really has no place here. Maybe in SQLMag but not here.......The true source for DBA's and developers.
Keep up the good work SQLservercentral.com!!!
June 8, 2004 at 5:31 pm
Talk about stereotyping.
Reagan's father was a staunch anti-racist and his mother was an evangelical Christian, together they informed Pres. Reagan's opinion. Ronald Reagan began life as a New Deal Democrat and he despised racism (at the time, the "racist" party was the Democrats) and two of its perputuators, Federal welfare and a domineering Federal Government. To be against such programs at a Federal level doesn't mean one doesn't support them at the State/local level (where they truely belong). This is why his program was called the New Federalism. The Federal Govt was never architected to get involved in all the things it now is, so opposition to certain programs from Libertareans and Fiscal Conservatives is normally from that aspect and not the racist one.
June 8, 2004 at 6:41 pm
On the historical side of things, let's remember that while in office Reagan (who was the oldest American to ever be sworn into office on his second term) was shot just after 3 months into his 1st term of presidency by Hinkley (the weird insane dude who had a thing for Jodi Foster) and survived two colon cancer surgeries. The timeline of his presidency between 1981 and 1989 shows:
A month before the election of his successor, President Bush Sr., Reagan looked back on his eight years in office: "I am the same man I was when I came to Washington," he said, "I believe the same things I believed when I came to Washington, and I think those beliefs have been vindicated by the success of the policies to which we hold fast." About his foreign policy, he said, "At every point on the map that the Soviets have applied pressure, we've done all we can to apply pressure against them." He went on "And now we are seeing a sight many believed they would never see in our lifetime: the receding of the tide of totalitarianism."
To that I owe him thanks and gratitude as an American...
All the best,
Dale
Author: An Introduction to SQL Server 2005 Management Studio
June 8, 2004 at 9:30 pm
Well, I don't know about getting "my juices flowing," but, as it happens, I just had my *last* cup of coffee and changed the *15th* diaper in as many hours (I've got a screaming 7 week old that I just passed off to my wife...luckily, our 3 year old is at grandma's for the night...).
I still like to blush, tho!
Take care,
Paul
June 9, 2004 at 4:27 am
Oh well Dale, you just got me involved in this evil thread
However, Frank Kaliz and others made it great because they have such a great sense of humor.
tststs, what a misspelling: It is Frank Kalis
Now then, I don't want to say all the things which there might be to say with respect to this thread. Just one thing:
Please Andy, Brian and Steve think more than twice, before you publish such articles. I respect this being an american based site, but it hosts definitely a global community and such articles and the inevitably abuse or controverse opinions thereafter will not reflect good credit on your site as a whole. There are definitely more adequate places to publish such stuff. Or was Reagan a SQL Server user in disguise
EOD for me.
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Microsoft SQL Server MVP
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June 9, 2004 at 5:57 am
June 9, 2004 at 6:49 am
Ha! Ha! PaulR! Did I call that one or not? Just starting my first cup of java myself. I need it. Long weekend after attending a SQL Server 2000 Reporting Services class. That was very cool! If you haven't looked into it yet, see this thread:
http://www.sqlservercentral.com/forums/shwmessage.aspx?forumid=61&messageid=118726&post=true
Frank!!!!!! Long time, no see!!!!! I'm sure you just changed your *15th* diaper as well. Sorry about the misspelling. My bad! Out of practice since I haven't caught up with you in a while.
Take care!
All the best,
Dale
Author: An Introduction to SQL Server 2005 Management Studio
June 9, 2004 at 11:45 am
Yea, you called it, Dale! Now that I've gotten some sleep since then (albeit, not much), and I've had *my* first cup, I can get back to some real work...reading threads, of course!
Interesting thread you mentioned. I posted some feedback questions for you (and others), so take a look.
June 9, 2004 at 9:02 pm
Try http://www.counterpunch.org/descoto06092004.html, or http://www.counterpunch.org/fons06082004.html for some balance against the Reagan as Great World Leader mass media message. Forget the pride stuff, lets face facts.
June 10, 2004 at 8:53 am
Oh, I will go much farther. Including this article on this site is incompetent and irresponsible in the extreme. A site is either political, or it's not. In an intensely polarized country, we should be glad for places of common ground (like this site before the article in question) rather than introducing divisive political crap.
In this world, I let nothing pass. You say Rocket Ronnie was a good man, then I MUST respond that, no, he was a disgusting, contemptible piece of right-wing garbage. If you don't want that, then keep politics off this site.
June 10, 2004 at 11:10 am
"And what country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers are not warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of resistance?" - Thomas Jefferson in a letter to William Stephens Smith, Nov. 13, 1787.
"The spirit of resistance to government is so valuable on certain occasions, that I wish it to be always kept alive. It will often be exercised when wrong, but better so than not to be exercised at all. I like a little rebellion now and then. It is like a storm in the atmosphere." Thomas Jefferson in a letter to Abigail Adams, 1787.
All the best,
Dale
Author: An Introduction to SQL Server 2005 Management Studio
June 10, 2004 at 2:14 pm
Steve,
It's your site but the only post that could have generated more flame would be a "do you think you a DBA should take a gun to work to deal with wayward project managers?"
I wouldn't wish Altzheimers on my worst enemy and Ronald Reagan wasn't my enemy.
History will judge us all, but in its time not ours.
July 3, 2004 at 12:03 am
Let us not forget it was Ronald Reagan who said,
"Communism only works in Heaven where they don't need it, or hell where they already got it."
Let us not forget Redmond is in Washington State and not one of the former Soviet States!
July 5, 2004 at 6:42 am
Reagan was a great president and a great statesman. Any comments to the contrary show your stupidity.
July 5, 2004 at 6:48 am
"he was a disgusting, contemptible piece of right-wing garbage"
You are an idiot!
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