April 17, 2009 at 8:30 am
jcrawf02 (4/17/2009)
GSquared (4/16/2009)
Michael Valentine Jones (4/15/2009)
Maybe you should learn to use what is available in SQL Server, like REVERSE, instead of spending time duplicating what is already available.Nah. One of the best ways to learn the tricky parts of any engineering tool (and programming languages are definitely engineering tools) is to work out how to do something without using a pre-built answer.
Nails and screws are awefully convenient, but it's fun and educational to build a wooden cabinet without using any. Take away wood glue also, and it's a challenge for even a good woodworker, and fun. And it teaches you techniques you can use in other applications that might be more practical.
Pshaw! That's no challenge, just use duct tape.
Well, I've found that when you try to use duct tape to reverse a character string, it leaves bits of glue all over your hard drives, and that's a bit of a problem...
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April 17, 2009 at 9:09 am
check out the below link, This will give you the function to reverse a string with out using REVERSE.
I always prefer to use existing functions, if they are available instead of duplicating the function.. but again on the other had if we try to duplicate the logic it will increase our programming capabilities :;-)
I am confusing:hehe:
April 17, 2009 at 10:13 am
jcrawf02 (4/17/2009)
GSquared (4/16/2009)
Michael Valentine Jones (4/15/2009)
Maybe you should learn to use what is available in SQL Server, like REVERSE, instead of spending time duplicating what is already available.Nah. One of the best ways to learn the tricky parts of any engineering tool (and programming languages are definitely engineering tools) is to work out how to do something without using a pre-built answer.
Nails and screws are awefully convenient, but it's fun and educational to build a wooden cabinet without using any. Take away wood glue also, and it's a challenge for even a good woodworker, and fun. And it teaches you techniques you can use in other applications that might be more practical.
Pshaw! That's no challenge, just use duct tape.
Hmm, interesting idea... π
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April 17, 2009 at 10:17 am
Pinal Dave's reverse function has this code in it:
RETURN (REVERSE(@StringToReverse))
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April 17, 2009 at 1:07 pm
OK, as long as we are doing useless SQL, I want to add numbers together without using any Arithmetic, Logical, Assignment, String, Bitwise, or Unary Operators or any Mathematical or Aggregate Functions.
April 17, 2009 at 1:32 pm
Michael Valentine Jones (4/17/2009)
OK, as long as we are doing useless SQL, I want to add numbers together without using any Arithmetic, Logical, Assignment, String, Bitwise, or Unary Operators or any Mathematical or Aggregate Functions.
create table #Sums (
Num1 int not null,
Num2 int not null,
Sum12 int);
insert into #Sums (Num1, Num2, Sum12)
select 0, 0, 0 union all
select 1, 0, 1 union all
select 2, 0, 2 union all
select 3, 0, 3 union all
select 4, 0, 4 union all
select 5, 0, 5 union all
select 6, 0, 6 union all
select 7, 0, 7 union all
select 8, 0, 8 union all
select 9, 0, 9 union all
select 0, 1, 1 union all
select 1, 1, 2 union all
select 2, 1, 3 union all
select 3, 1, 4 union all
select 4, 1, 5 union all
select 5, 1, 6 union all
select 6, 1, 7 union all
select 7, 1, 8 union all
select 8, 1, 9 union all
select 9, 1, 10 union all
select 0, 2, 2 union all
select 1, 2, 3 union all
select 2, 2, 4 union all
select 3, 2, 5 union all
select 4, 2, 6 union all
select 5, 2, 7 union all
select 6, 2, 8 union all
select 7, 2, 9 union all
select 8, 2, 10 union all
select 9, 2, 11 union all
select 0, 3, 3 union all
select 1, 3, 4 union all
select 2, 3, 5 union all
select 3, 3, 6 union all
select 4, 3, 7 union all
select 5, 3, 8 union all
select 6, 3, 9 union all
select 7, 3, 10 union all
select 8, 3, 11 union all
select 9, 3, 12 union all
select 0, 4, 4 union all
select 1, 4, 5 union all
select 2, 4, 6 union all
select 3, 4, 7 union all
select 4, 4, 8 union all
select 5, 4, 9 union all
select 6, 4, 10 union all
select 7, 4, 11 union all
select 8, 4, 12 union all
select 9, 4, 13 union all
select 0, 5, 5 union all
select 1, 5, 6 union all
select 2, 5, 7 union all
select 3, 5, 8 union all
select 4, 5, 9 union all
select 5, 5, 10 union all
select 6, 5, 11 union all
select 7, 5, 12 union all
select 8, 5, 13 union all
select 9, 5, 14 union all
select 0, 6, 6 union all
select 1, 6, 7 union all
select 2, 6, 8 union all
select 3, 6, 9 union all
select 4, 6, 10 union all
select 5, 6, 11 union all
select 6, 6, 12 union all
select 7, 6, 13 union all
select 8, 6, 14 union all
select 9, 6, 15 union all
select 0, 7, 7 union all
select 1, 7, 8 union all
select 2, 7, 9 union all
select 3, 7, 10 union all
select 4, 7, 11 union all
select 5, 7, 12 union all
select 6, 7, 13 union all
select 7, 7, 14 union all
select 8, 7, 15 union all
select 9, 7, 16 union all
select 0, 8, 8 union all
select 1, 8, 9 union all
select 2, 8, 10 union all
select 3, 8, 11 union all
select 4, 8, 12 union all
select 5, 8, 13 union all
select 6, 8, 14 union all
select 7, 8, 15 union all
select 8, 8, 16 union all
select 9, 8, 17 union all
select 0, 9, 9 union all
select 1, 9, 10 union all
select 2, 9, 11 union all
select 3, 9, 12 union all
select 4, 9, 13 union all
select 5, 9, 14 union all
select 6, 9, 15 union all
select 7, 9, 16 union all
select 8, 9, 17 union all
select 9, 9, 18;
declare @Num1 int, @Num2 int;
select @Num1 = 1, @Num2 = 5;
select Sum12 as [Sum]
from #Sums
where Num1 = @Num1
and Num2 = @Num2;
The table can be extended pretty much indefinitely, of course.
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April 17, 2009 at 3:09 pm
Heh. At least someone remembers their 3rd grade Addition tables! π
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April 17, 2009 at 8:27 pm
GSquared (4/17/2009)
Michael Valentine Jones (4/17/2009)
OK, as long as we are doing useless SQL, I want to add numbers together without using any Arithmetic, Logical, Assignment, String, Bitwise, or Unary Operators or any Mathematical or Aggregate Functions.
create table #Sums (
Num1 int not null,
Num2 int not null,
Sum12 int);
insert into #Sums (Num1, Num2, Sum12)
select 0, 0, 0 union all
select 1, 0, 1 union all
select 2, 0, 2 union all
select 3, 0, 3 union all
select 4, 0, 4 union all
select 5, 0, 5 union all
select 6, 0, 6 union all
select 7, 0, 7 union all
select 8, 0, 8 union all
select 9, 0, 9 union all
select 0, 1, 1 union all
select 1, 1, 2 union all
select 2, 1, 3 union all
select 3, 1, 4 union all
select 4, 1, 5 union all
select 5, 1, 6 union all
select 6, 1, 7 union all
select 7, 1, 8 union all
select 8, 1, 9 union all
select 9, 1, 10 union all
select 0, 2, 2 union all
select 1, 2, 3 union all
select 2, 2, 4 union all
select 3, 2, 5 union all
select 4, 2, 6 union all
select 5, 2, 7 union all
select 6, 2, 8 union all
select 7, 2, 9 union all
select 8, 2, 10 union all
select 9, 2, 11 union all
select 0, 3, 3 union all
select 1, 3, 4 union all
select 2, 3, 5 union all
select 3, 3, 6 union all
select 4, 3, 7 union all
select 5, 3, 8 union all
select 6, 3, 9 union all
select 7, 3, 10 union all
select 8, 3, 11 union all
select 9, 3, 12 union all
select 0, 4, 4 union all
select 1, 4, 5 union all
select 2, 4, 6 union all
select 3, 4, 7 union all
select 4, 4, 8 union all
select 5, 4, 9 union all
select 6, 4, 10 union all
select 7, 4, 11 union all
select 8, 4, 12 union all
select 9, 4, 13 union all
select 0, 5, 5 union all
select 1, 5, 6 union all
select 2, 5, 7 union all
select 3, 5, 8 union all
select 4, 5, 9 union all
select 5, 5, 10 union all
select 6, 5, 11 union all
select 7, 5, 12 union all
select 8, 5, 13 union all
select 9, 5, 14 union all
select 0, 6, 6 union all
select 1, 6, 7 union all
select 2, 6, 8 union all
select 3, 6, 9 union all
select 4, 6, 10 union all
select 5, 6, 11 union all
select 6, 6, 12 union all
select 7, 6, 13 union all
select 8, 6, 14 union all
select 9, 6, 15 union all
select 0, 7, 7 union all
select 1, 7, 8 union all
select 2, 7, 9 union all
select 3, 7, 10 union all
select 4, 7, 11 union all
select 5, 7, 12 union all
select 6, 7, 13 union all
select 7, 7, 14 union all
select 8, 7, 15 union all
select 9, 7, 16 union all
select 0, 8, 8 union all
select 1, 8, 9 union all
select 2, 8, 10 union all
select 3, 8, 11 union all
select 4, 8, 12 union all
select 5, 8, 13 union all
select 6, 8, 14 union all
select 7, 8, 15 union all
select 8, 8, 16 union all
select 9, 8, 17 union all
select 0, 9, 9 union all
select 1, 9, 10 union all
select 2, 9, 11 union all
select 3, 9, 12 union all
select 4, 9, 13 union all
select 5, 9, 14 union all
select 6, 9, 15 union all
select 7, 9, 16 union all
select 8, 9, 17 union all
select 9, 9, 18;
declare @Num1 int, @Num2 int;
select @Num1 = 1, @Num2 = 5;
select Sum12 as [Sum]
from #Sums
where Num1 = @Num1
and Num2 = @Num2;
The table can be extended pretty much indefinitely, of course.
I did say no Assignment operators, so that disqualifies this statement:
select @Num1 = 1, @Num2 = 5;
April 20, 2009 at 7:58 am
That's not part of the addition. That's just setting up a framework to run it. Run the query without that, with the numbers directly in the Where clause, instead of using variables, you'll be fine.
If you truly want addition without any mathematical, logical, etc., arguments, here you go:
Question: "What's some number added to another number?" (Can't have assignments in there, so you can't actually state what numbers you want to add.)
Answer: "A number."
It's a correct answer! Woot! π
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April 20, 2009 at 8:43 am
GSquared (4/20/2009)
That's not part of the addition. That's just setting up a framework to run it. Run the query without that, with the numbers directly in the Where clause, instead of using variables, you'll be fine.If you truly want addition without any mathematical, logical, etc., arguments, here you go:
Question: "What's some number added to another number?" (Can't have assignments in there, so you can't actually state what numbers you want to add.)
Answer: "A number."
It's a correct answer! Woot! π
I was gonna suggest sp_Abacus, but your solution runs faster.
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May 20, 2011 at 10:51 pm
hi,
it is batch code it gives revers of all rows in the table........
i think this is good solution for --reversing data with out using REVERSE() function
create table std
(id int identity,
name varchar(20))
insert into std(name)
values ('abhijeet'),('omkar'),('tushar')
create table #table
(id int ,
name varchar(20))
declare @STR varchar(20)
--if exists(select * from std)
--begin
declare @count int
set @count=(select COUNT(*) from std)
--declare @tempcntid int=@count
declare@i int=@count
--while exists(select * from std)
while @i!=0
begin
set @STR=(select name from std where id=@i)
declare@str2 varchar(20)=' '
declare @j-2 int=1
while @j-2<=LEN(@str)
begin
set @str2=SUBSTRING(@str,@j,1)+ @str2
set @j-2=@j+1
end
--print @str2
insert into #table(id,name)values(@i,@str2)
--set @tempcntid=@tempcntid-1
set @i=@i-1
end
go
select * from std
go
select * from #table
go
May 21, 2011 at 10:06 pm
abhi620 (5/20/2011)
i think this is good solution for...
With only very few exceptions, the RBAR of a WHILE loop is almost never a good solution. Please try it on a couple of hundred thousand rows and see.
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Change is inevitable... Change for the better is not.
January 24, 2013 at 8:15 am
Just modify the next iteration call a bit, and the recursive solution works:
ALTER function dbo.StringReverse
(
@InString varchar(20)
)
returns varchar(20)
AS
begin
declare @RevString varchar(20)
IF len(@InString) in (0,1)
set @RevString = @InString
ELSE
set @RevString =
(
RIGHT(@instring,1) -- Could use SUBSTRING, but why not RIGHT ?
+
dbo.StringReverse(substring(@InString, 1, len(@InString)-1))
)
return @RevString
end
Obviously, "WITHOUT using any built-in functions" isn't quite accurate, as SUBSTRING and LEN are used, So if there are exceptions, RIGHT could also be used to provide better clarity...
January 24, 2013 at 8:47 am
Here's another method:
-- Parameters
DECLARE @String VARCHAR(8000)
SET @String = 'Reverse'
-- Local Variables
DECLARE @OutputString VARCHAR(8000); SET @OutputString = '';
DECLARE @StrLen INT; SET @StrLen = DATALENGTH(@String);
DECLARE @MappingTable TABLE (n INT PRIMARY KEY CLUSTERED);
INSERT INTO @MappingTable (n)
SELECT TOP(@StrLen) n = ROW_NUMBER() OVER (ORDER BY (SELECT NULL)) FROM syscolumns a, syscolumns b;
UPDATE @MappingTable SET @OutputString = @OutputString + SUBSTRING(@String,(@StrLen+1)-n,1);
SELECT FormattedAmount = @OutputString;
For fast, accurate and documented assistance in answering your questions, please read this article.
Understanding and using APPLY, (I) and (II) Paul White
Hidden RBAR: Triangular Joins / The "Numbers" or "Tally" Table: What it is and how it replaces a loop Jeff Moden
July 16, 2016 at 9:50 pm
declare @string varchar(60)
set @string='reverse string'
;with Reverse_string
as
(
select @string string,cast('' as varchar(50)) Rstring,LEN(@string)LN
union all
select SUBSTRING(string,0,ln)string,cast(Rstring+substring(string,LN,1)as varchar(50)) Rstring,ln-1 ln from Reverse_string
where LN>0
)
select Rstring from Reverse_string where ln=0
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