Restart SQL Server service on a cluster environment

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Restart SQL Server service on a cluster environment

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Mike Hinds SSCarpal Tunnel Points: 4258 More actions · Answer 1

Perry Whittle (8/6/2010)
Mike Hinds (8/5/2010)
but manually bringing either online does nothing for the other.
then you do not have your dependencies set correctly!
see my attached screenshot for details

Thanks for the screenshots, Perry.

Now I can see how one could do that. I have always just used SQL installer defaults.

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Brandie Tarvin SSC Guru Points: 173068 More actions · Answer 2

free_mascot (8/4/2010)
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I would like to drow your attention that when you restart the server tempdb will shrink and when the space is required it has to expand. Now expanding the tempdb frequently is not a solution. Tempdb is 10G beacause it require that much space.
I guess you need to find out the root cause what's make tempdb to grow? Usually your database maintenance plan do so. But I feel 10G is all right for tempdb.

I agree with this statement. Constant shrinking of TempDB is a great way of causing fragmentation in your database as well as causing performance problems when the DB has to grow back up again to take the amount of space it needs for calculating things.

10 GB is not a huge TempDB. I've seen them larger.

If you want TempDB to be smaller, a couple of things to check would be the over use of Temp tables in queries, and Bulk Insert tasks while the database is in FULL Recovery Mode. Changing the recovery mode appropriately or getting rid of unnecessary temp tables in queries will help keep the size down somewhat.

EDIT: To clarify the recovery mode comment, if you're doing a lot of additional processing during a Bulk Insert (formulas, etc.), it will increase the size of the TempDB in addition to the regular TransactionLog file.

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Perry Whittle SSC Guru Points: 234013 More actions · Answer 3

Mike Hinds (8/6/2010)
Perry Whittle (8/6/2010)
Mike Hinds (8/5/2010)
but manually bringing either online does nothing for the other.
then you do not have your dependencies set correctly!
see my attached screenshot for details
Thanks for the screenshots, Perry.
Now I can see how one could do that. I have always just used SQL installer defaults.

No problem Mike you're welcome. I always go into cluster administrator post installation to check my dependencies, I'm a trusting soul 🙂

The attached screenshot shows a brief overview of the dependency set for SQL Server resources.

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Johan Bijnens SSC Guru Points: 135369 More actions · Answer 4

here's a nice article at SSC http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/SQL+Server/70505/

It also mentions these great links on tempdb:

- Working with tempdb: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc966545.aspx

- troubleshooting performance: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc966540.aspx#EEAA

These links provide good insight on why it is uses and common issues you can have with it.

Best is you read them over ( and once again ) and build your plan of attack to avoid these scheduled restarts.

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Perry Whittle SSC Guru Points: 234013 More actions · Answer 5

wow this is really going off topic now, the OP only asked about cluster resources failing over from node to node 😀

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Johan Bijnens SSC Guru Points: 135369 More actions · Answer 6

Perry Whittle (8/6/2010)
wow this is really going off topic now, the OP only asked about cluster resources failing over from node to node 😀

I'm verry sorry for that :unsure:

but I always try to prevent downtime if that is not really needed :w00t:

Off course you can launch commands for your clustering service ...

ref: "Cluster.exe Commands" http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc723245.aspx

or the good old DOS "cluster resource /?" may be a good start.