problem with indexes and Index Tuning Wizard

  • Hello.

    I've encountered a problem on our SQL-SERVER 2k standard edition (SP4).

    I have a database in which the SQL Server won't use indexes in the execution plan and the index tuning wizard won't recommend any indexes.

    Even a simple query as follows is causing a slow performance:

    SELECT *

    FROM myTable

    WHERE Rec_Date='2009-1-1'

    The same query on a different database uses index and the index tuning wizard does recommend the correct index, even after I dropped all the indexes, including the primary keys on both databases and used about the same size tables.

    So I created a new database and copied 2 of the tables to the new db (with creation of new tables and INSERT), using only primary keys . There was a slight "improvement" of the ITW with the new database, but still the ITW didn't recommend what seemed to me the right indexes for joined update queries or suggested a 10 columns index for a simple join select.

    The tables look something like that:

    Table A:

    Row_ID int identity (clustered primary key)

    Rec_Date datetime

    Sale_Number int

    Item_Code nvarchar(15)

    Item_Price ....

    and so on about 10 columns with 85 mil rows.

    Table B:

    Sale_Date datetime

    Item_Code nvarchar(15)

    Item_Cost float

    about 20 mil rows, the primary key (clustered) consists from Sale_Date and Item_Code

    I've checked almost anything I could think of, including same data types with the joined queries, the use of variable, updated statistics

    any suggestions?

    Thank you,

    Doron

  • Most likely it's because the index isn't covering and there's too many rows returned for an index seek + bookmark lookups to be optimal.

    See - http://sqlinthewild.co.za/index.php/2009/01/09/seek-or-scan/

    If you want more specific suggestions, please post table definitions, index definitions and execution plan, as per http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/SQLServerCentral/66909/

    Gail Shaw
    Microsoft Certified Master: SQL Server, MVP, M.Sc (Comp Sci)
    SQL In The Wild: Discussions on DB performance with occasional diversions into recoverability

    We walk in the dark places no others will enter
    We stand on the bridge and no one may pass
  • Thanks Gail.

    I've read the posting rules, but as I mentioned in the original post, the behavior of the SQL Server changes from database to database on the same tables (definition and content).

    For example, Lets take this simple table:

    CREATE TABLE [Customer] (

    [club] [varchar] (10) NULL ,

    [CustomerID] [varchar] (20) NULL ,

    [createdate] [varchar] (50) NULL ,

    [initstore] [varchar] (20) NULL ,

    [gender] [varchar] (10) NULL ,

    [firstname] [varchar] (50) NULL ,

    [lastname] [varchar] (50) NULL ,

    [lastupdate] [varchar] (50) NULL ,

    [mobile] [varchar] (50) NULL ,

    [phone] [varchar] (50) NULL ,

    [varchar] (100) NULL ,

    [address] [varchar] (150) NULL ,

    [towncity] [varchar] (100) NULL ,

    [street] [varchar] (100) NULL ,

    [housenumber] [varchar] (10) NULL

    )

    It's about 300K rows, no primary key and no indexes.

    Lets run the following query in the ITW :

    SELECT *

    FROM Customers

    WHERE CustomerID='012776'

    Now, in the problematic database I'm getting no index recommendation at all from the ITW.

    The same query on the same table on a different database (smaller in total size) will result with the recommendation to create an index on the CustomerID column.

    So I presume that table size doesn't matter here and probably something else is interfering.

    Thanks,

    Doron

  • Honestly, I don't trust IDW and I don't use ITW. This is one of the reasons. Some other people have mentioned much the same behaviour with the 2005 DTA. I much prefer to tune indexes by hand.

    Gail Shaw
    Microsoft Certified Master: SQL Server, MVP, M.Sc (Comp Sci)
    SQL In The Wild: Discussions on DB performance with occasional diversions into recoverability

    We walk in the dark places no others will enter
    We stand on the bridge and no one may pass

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