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NOT IN condition

Peter Gadsby

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November 29, 2007 at 5:55 am

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Hi all,
We have a query that does the following:-
INSERT INTO DC_CLAIMS
(CLAIM_SK)
SELECT
DISTINCT CLAIM_SK
FROM
DIM_CLAIMS A2
WHERE
CLAIM_SK not in (SELECT CLAIM_SK from GL_CLAIMS A1 )
This query does NOT return any rows to the DC_CLAIMS table. I expected some data to be inserted.
When I modified the query as follows:-
INSERT INTO DC_CLAIMS
(CLAIM_SK)
SELECT
DISTINCT CLAIM_SK
FROM
DIM_CLAIMS A2
WHERE
not exists(SELECT 1 from GL_CLAIMS A1 WHERE A1.CLAIM_SK = A2.CLAIM_SK)
I get rows inserted... Does anyone know why this is happening?
Thanks
Pete
Peter Gadsby
Business Intelligence Consultant
www.hgconsult.co.uk

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Jason Selburg SSC-Insane Points: 24641 More actions · Answer 1

I'm not sure, but I'll bet it's obvious. 😀

Anywho, I believe this would be more efficient.

INSERT INTO DC_CLAIMS (CLAIM_SK)

SELECT DISTINCT

CLAIM_SK

FROM

DIM_CLAIMS A2

LEFT JOIN GL_CLAIMS A1

ON A1.CLAIM_SK = A2.CLAIM_SK

WHERE

A1.CLAIM_SK IS NULL

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Peter Gadsby SSCrazy Points: 2718 More actions · Answer 2

Thanks for that Jason... But the query that runs doesn't take that long to run. What I was worried about was that the insert with the NOT IN clause was not returning any rows... The subquery should return 500,000 ish rows so I'm assuming that for some reason SQL Server has failed to store the subquery data in memory. The weird thing is it didn't return any errors when the query is run.

Anyone else have any ideas why this is not running correctly?

Pete

Peter Gadsby
Business Intelligence Consultant
www.hgconsult.co.uk

Ken McKelvey SSCoach Points: 18853 More actions · Answer 3

Your queries are running correctly, NOT IN and NOT EXISTS are not the same when there are NULLs involved and ANSI_NULLs are on. (Your data must have NULLs in the GL_CLAIMS.CLAIM_SK column.)

Here is an article that tries to explain the three-value logic involved.

http://weblogs.sqlteam.com/mladenp/archive/2007/05/18/60210.aspx

Peter Gadsby SSCrazy Points: 2718 More actions · Answer 4

Thanks Ken, that explains it... Although after reading the article I still don't understand why one row in the table has nulls then the whole set of data is ignored.... Does Oracle behave in the same way?

Peter Gadsby
Business Intelligence Consultant
www.hgconsult.co.uk

Matt Miller (4) SSC Guru Points: 124210 More actions · Answer 5

Let's see if we can define it a little differently:

Using an example syntax of ....

X in (list)

...., the IN syntax compares X to each value and returns TRUE if any of the value equals. Now - if X is in fact in the list, then all is good, since there is at least one item in the list where X=item. If it's NOT there, and the list has no NULL values, then the IN returns FALSE. If the list has a NULL value, then the IN syntax returns a value of UNKNOWN (neither TRUE nor FALSE).

Now - when you throw in the NOT, then your scenario returns NOT UNKNOWN (which interestingly is also UNKNOWN). For better or for worse, NOT UNKNOWN is not the same as TRUE, so the criteria fails.

If you want the NOT IN syntax to work, simply make sure that the select doesn't return any NULL values, such as:

INSERT INTO DC_CLAIMS

(CLAIM_SK)

SELECT

DISTINCT CLAIM_SK

FROM

DIM_CLAIMS A2

WHERE

CLAIM_SK not in

(SELECT CLAIM_SK from GL_CLAIMS A1

where CLAIM_SK is not null --here's the update

)

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Peter Gadsby SSCrazy Points: 2718 More actions · Answer 6

Thanks Matt.. I had a little google moment to see if anyone else had the issue in Oracle world, and came up with this web page which really does explain to me how it works...

http://jonathanlewis.wordpress.com/2007/02/25/not-in/

Thanks for your help, basically I'm going to avoid NOT in and use NOT EXISTS instead where possible.

Cheers

Pete

Peter Gadsby
Business Intelligence Consultant
www.hgconsult.co.uk