November 5, 2011 at 12:21 am
Comments posted to this topic are about the item Never offend a captive audience
Best wishes,
Phil Factor
November 6, 2011 at 3:11 pm
Well said, and I hardly agree! Profane language has no place in technical writing. Talking about things of a factual nature does not need thisw usage.
Thanks for your article.
November 6, 2011 at 3:27 pm
I agree, swearing is unecessary in the workplace.
However, Shakespeare has his fair share of foul language, well far more than that given how many words he invented.
He had some quite creative ones, like "Strumpet"
Bolting-hutch of beastliness
etc
November 6, 2011 at 3:45 pm
I prefer 'The devil d*mn thee black, thou cream-faced lune'. It is very satisfying.
Best wishes,
Phil Factor
November 6, 2011 at 4:12 pm
Better Shakespeare than Chaucer, I suppose...
Shakespeare seems particularly fond of a little cuckoldry to push the plot along, though crediting him with invention of the term "Strumpet" is perhaps taking things a little far.
November 6, 2011 at 6:07 pm
I agree as well.
In a romance we're dealing with fictional or real characters (and they can curse and do whatever they want) so we're able to take some literary freedom, depending on the style -- suspense, horror, sci-fi, etc.
In technical documents it's only you and your readers. If you start swearing for no reason you give your audience the right to swear back at you.
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Best regards,
Andre Guerreiro Neto
Database Analyst
http://www.softplan.com.br
MCITPx1/MCTSx2/MCSE/MCSA
November 6, 2011 at 9:45 pm
Yes sorry, I've checked facts and Strumpet is a lot older than Shakespeare. It's still a great olde insult!
November 6, 2011 at 10:14 pm
david.howell (11/6/2011)
... It's still a great olde insult!
Great indeed.
One only has to hear its use by Billy Connolly to appreciate its nuances.
November 6, 2011 at 11:01 pm
.. main reason why IT in the finance industry is dominated by males...
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SQL_EXPAT
November 6, 2011 at 11:10 pm
I honestly do not understand why people, in any sphere of life, has to spice their words with swearing and bad language. It is bad taste.
:-PManie Verster
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Johannesburg
South Africa
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November 7, 2011 at 12:28 am
natural reaction to high stress/high impact working environments.... when trading systems are down there will be profanity... lots of it.
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SQL_EXPAT
November 7, 2011 at 1:10 am
Heartily agree. I recall working in the steam-pressing room of a clothing factory during university holidays - a real sweat shop as it was the hot summer of '76 - with a woman who swore so constantly it became boring and just obfuscated the point she was trying to make. During one rant whilst stuck at the ironing board, I counted 52 bl***y in five minutes!
My other half is in the building trade and building sites are noted for profanity. Trying to get some of them to moderate their language in other company outside work is very difficult and we've sometimes avoided the pub for that reason.
The usual saying is "You can take the builder out of the building site but you can't take the building site out of the builder"
November 7, 2011 at 2:24 am
SQL_EXPAT (11/7/2011)
natural reaction to high stress/high impact working environments.... when trading systems are down there will be profanity... lots of it.
Disagree. I used to work on a bank's trading system. When it was down, lots of stress, but little swearing. Some yes, but not lots.
Gail Shaw
Microsoft Certified Master: SQL Server, MVP, M.Sc (Comp Sci)
SQL In The Wild: Discussions on DB performance with occasional diversions into recoverability
November 7, 2011 at 2:25 am
Very well put Phil. This is what separates the 'wheat from the chaff'. Anyone who uses profanity (including blesphemy) is lowering themselves in my estimation; that is, my respect for them diminishes at a rate in proportion to the frequency and tone of the 'bad' language.
Paul
November 7, 2011 at 2:57 am
comes with the territory when working on a London trading floor or application support for a large exchange... in fact its mostly the senior alpha character people who talk like this especially during an outage... Part of the reason why finance looks for people with previous finance experience so they know they can take it... not an excuse, just the way it is... I have no lack of respect for someone who does - its just the way they are or have to be to be effective in some instances and it often gets rewarded....
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