MOM Is Gone

  • MOM Is Gone

    Or at least it's being overhauled with a facelift, change of identity, and who knows what else. Microsoft Operations Manager, often called MOM, will be renamed System Center Operations Manager 2007 when it ships next year. Unfortunately along with many changes, one important fact is that SCOM 2007 won't be an upgrade from MOM 2005. Instead you'll need to setup a parallel environment, compare the systems to be sure they are capturing events correctly, and then cut the old one off.

    While many people don't like the fact that an upgrade isn't available, if you are depending on MOM for alerting and monitoring in your production environment, then this is really the best way to move to the new system. The last thing you need is your monitoring going down because that's when Mr. Murphy will be sure your financial system goes down.

    The one thing that I don't like is the fact that there are new agents for 2007 and they can't be used by MOM 2005. Or apparently SCOM 2007 can't use MOM 2005 agents, which is even worse. There should be some ability to read the older events and incorporate them into the system rather than requiring more software to be installed.

    In the review it seems that SCOM 2007 Beta seems to work well and has a number of nice features, especially in reporting, that make it an upgrade worth considering.

    I've never used MOM before since my companies have always had some other system in place. And now I've got a simple environment and I think MOM or SCOM would be overkill for the 5 servers I'm running. However the new product looks interesting and since it's based on SQL Server for data, I'm thinking of giving it a try. At least to get some experience and see if any of the DBAs from the SQL Server team got consulted when setting up the data structures. I know they weren't for SMS, and that structure is a mess.

    Steve Jones

  • Is it just me or does the new acronym look disturbingly like SOCOM?

    Funny, I didn't realise SQL ran on PlayStation...

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    C8H10N4O2

  • Ow!  SMS Data has different finger prints depending on the inventoried item, but the one point DB in MOM is ready for an update for sure! 

  • We use MOM, but its alerting system leaves much to be desired. I have resorted to loading MOM alerts to a separate database table, and sending my pages/emails from that system. This provided the escalation ability, and other more granular control lacking in MOM.

    Maybe this new version offers improvements. We shall see.

    Terry

     

     

  • Steve, we've used MOM 2k and have been using MOM2K5 for some time now. Running in parallel seems logical for an upgrade of this sort for an enterprise. We did this for MOM 2K and MOM 2K5 during the upgrade - phased in by groups of computers. The ability to not convert data seems on the surface to be a show stopper. However in reality only the site specific knowledgebase is of any sort of value. I agree the schema needs rework. Let's hope it gets better. As for service incompatibilities, well isn't that what SMS is for ?

    On monitoring for your servers ... there is a MOM for workgroups version that is considerably slimmed down that you might want to look at.

    RegardsRudy KomacsarSenior Database Administrator"Ave Caesar! - Morituri te salutamus."

  • Steve, Apparently this new, renamed MOM software is actually a combination of two un-released products Corporate Error Reporting (CER) v3 (now called Agentless Exception Monitoring (AEM)) and Microsoft Audit Collection Services (MACS or sometimes ACS).

    This blog has more background info:

    http://ianblythmanagement.wordpress.com/2006/08/01/scom-2007-architecture/ 

    Peter Shire

    sqlSentry

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