Mind Your Manners
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I recognise quite a few of those example posts you provided
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Colt 45 - the original point and click interface
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Wonderful! Manners just don't seem to be important to many people anymore. I am glad that I am not the only one who thinks manners and kindness are important regardless of the communication medium. Thank you.
Cheers,
Nicole
Nicole Bowman
Nothing is forever.
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Absolutely outstanding article, Sushila... Your fine article should be the one that is required reading, not only for the "newbies", but for many of us old hacks as a reminder that we, too, were once newbies with seemingly stupid questions. You even touched on those with the "do my homework for me" syndrome. Well done, old friend.
You were particularly thoughtful in the "Mind your Ps and Qs" section.
A simple "thank you" or other acknowledgment, be it from a poser or a peer, goes very far with all of the respondents. How often it seems that a poser forgets that we don't get paid or even recognized for this... that these forums are our counted cross-stitch and wood shop... it can be difficult but we somehow get enjoyment from it. So, thanks, Sushila... you're the best.--Jeff Moden
RBAR is pronounced "ree-bar" and is a "Modenism" for Row-By-Agonizing-Row.
First step towards the paradigm shift of writing Set Based code:
________Stop thinking about what you want to do to a ROW... think, instead, of what you want to do to a COLUMN.Change is inevitable... Change for the better is not.
Helpful Links:
How to post code problems
How to Post Performance Problems
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I very much enjoyed reading this article - it flows well and the comments are very relevant to the community you are writing to.
I would just like to add one thing, for those who are new to SQL Server, when a poster asks for data and scripts, just be careful to send only samples or sufficiently edited originals to hide any sensitive information! Your employer would be very grateful that you had.
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I don't think I've ever actually had to post a question, but I've used the site and forums enough to get the answers I was looking for (usually at least a couple of times a month). So a big "Thank You" to all the people who have taken the time to answer questions that have helped an invisible minority/majority months and even years later after the original question was asked.
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Phill - I knew you'd recognize the comments if you actually had the time to stop by and read the article..- I did have a great time compiling the quotes for I had to reread a whole bunch of old posts for my "material" and the one that you recognized was easily one of the funniest!
Jeff - thank you for those kind words - I'm sure you recognize yourself in the member who goes to inordinate lengths to help out - so the ssc community owes YOU a big collective "thank you"!
Nicole, Paul - thank you for the +ve feedback!
allotc - Like you I too have seldom posted a question but have benefited hugely just from reading and learning from many of the responses and solutions...
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Thanks for the excellent article, Sushila. I've thought for some time that a kind reminder of manners was needed for the site, and you managed to hit points for both question posters and answerers. Thanks much!
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Same here. It made me relie so many memories. Thanx for the great article.
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Let's try to fix the forum and repost my message :
Same here. It made me relie so many memories. Thanx for the great article.
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Remi - thanks for being one of the "contributors" to the article...time for acknowledgements then...some of the names I remember borrowing "quotes" from are:
Barsuk
Mike Dubois
Remi Gregoire
Jeff Moden
Scott Beckstead
Sergiy
Joe Celko
Phil Factor
Apologies to those who recognise their quotes that I may have forgotten to mention here...
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I think you got most of them...
So what were those top 10 newbie questions (from the top of you head)?
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Excellent article. Thanks Sushila. And I agree with Jeff that this should be required reading.
Steve, any way to pin this article to the top of the heap?
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Sushila, thanks for a great article! I appreciate the time you took to go thru "older" posts and glean those quotes; reality is so much better than a made-up "for instance". I also read more than I post, as I'm still trying to learn SQL server from a developers standpoint (coming from an MS-Access background). It's obvious from the posts I've read that there is a dedicated core group here at SQLServerCentral that really likes to work on knotty problems, but they're always willing to help a newbie. And most of them are very good about explaining complex solutions to the up-and-coming who post their questions.
Everyone has an aberant bad day now and then, so the occasional miffed post doesn't bother me; a trend would be of more concern.
And by the way, Sushila, I love your signature quote, and have since the first day I saw it. It still makes me chuckle every time I see it - relevance as humor always has a place for me!
Here there be dragons...,Steph Brown
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A little human kindness goes a long way. Let's all remember we're here to help one another. Terrific article!
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