June 27, 2006 at 8:09 pm
One thing I do not like is that you cannot create a new SQL2K DTS package using Management Studio.
Other than that I am slowly getting used to the new tool.
June 27, 2006 at 9:24 pm
How does one manipulate user permissions for SQL2000 in SSMS? In EM, I could right-click on an object and edit what the groups could do, or right-click on a group and edit what they could do with which objects. I know that SQL2005 uses Schemas for this sort of thing now, but how does one use it with SQL2000?
June 28, 2006 at 2:55 pm
Permissions for SQL2K can still be edited in SSMS, just have to go one level deeper. Right-click on the object, select Properties, then select Permissions. It is more of a Windows network type of process (search) for working with permissions, but very similar.
June 28, 2006 at 5:54 pm
SQL2005 objects are still owned by people, it's just that the ownership is hidden slightly by the fact that objects are also in schemas. In fact, I have another article in the works that talks about ownership chaining issues and 'execute as' to address this.
And as for hiding the results-pane - Ctrl-R still works.
For editing DTS packages, get the feature-pack with the SQL Server 2000 DTS Designer Components.
Rob
Rob Farley
LobsterPot Solutions & Adelaide SQL Server User Group
Company: http://www.lobsterpot.com.au
Blog: http://blogs.lobsterpot.com.au
June 29, 2006 at 2:44 am
CTRL R toggels the results pane off and on just like in QA.
By the way performance is almost acceptable if you stick 2Gb in your development machine.
My dev machine is a 3GHz P4 with 2GB DD2 533MHz RAM and performance still doesn't light any fires!!!!
June 30, 2006 at 12:47 am
Dear Mr. RoB
How to use/open SQL 2000 DTS in the Management Studio? Would you please guide me!
R. M. Joseph
June 30, 2006 at 12:54 am
Start by downloading the Feature Pack from http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=df0ba5aa-b4bd-4705-aa0a-b477ba72a9cb&DisplayLang=en
You will at least need the "Microsoft SQL Server 2000 DTS Designer Components" bit of it.
Once that's installed, open the Object Explorer window in MgtStudio, and within the Management folder, you should see Legacy, and in there, a DTS folder.
Good luck!
Rob
Rob Farley
LobsterPot Solutions & Adelaide SQL Server User Group
Company: http://www.lobsterpot.com.au
Blog: http://blogs.lobsterpot.com.au
July 10, 2006 at 6:29 am
I enjoyed the article and the discussion.
MS has lots of nice goodies and its the way of the future so I tend to use it and only drop back to EM occasionally for DTS. I will give the feature pack a go now. MS still has plenty of room for improvement.
Some things I miss are:
. performance
. cant turn off that (almost) useless summary page
. does not allow you to open a file on a current connection - when you open a file you are forced to a new window/reconnect and attach to database.
. does not have the spinning globe icon for connections that are busy executing long queries
The Grinch
July 21, 2006 at 6:46 am
The main problem is that do a quick query you find something that you have to load the whole of Management studio... It is feature rich - but very annoying to do the simpliest of things.
And as per usual the memory usage goes through the roof ... especially when you have VS open as well.. Can't Microsoft still provide us will a simple QA tool - When I upgraded all the old toll disappeared and have been unable to reinstall them.
July 21, 2006 at 9:18 am
I think you can still use isql or osql for quick queries. If you have Office Pro or Developer, you can use Access (preferrably 2003) Projects (.adp files, not .mdb) to do basic manipulation of SQL Server 2000 databases, and it’s much faster than even EM, let alone MS (though QA is about equal in speed: also, with Access Projects, you can’t do ad-hoc queries, but must instead name and save a Stored Procedure or View before executing it — you can do ad-hoc queries with an Access Database [.mdb] that links to Tables in the MSSQL2000 Database, however).
Does anyone know if Access Projects work well with SQL 2005 databases?
July 21, 2006 at 10:28 pm
Well, the equivalent to osql is sqlcmd.
I know it feels like the various tools for MS products are just getting slower and slower, but that's largely because we all have faster machines now... it's considered acceptable enough to have things run slower if they're doing more. Windows Vista requires a much chunkier machine than XP, Office 12 needs more than Office 11, and SQL2005 tools need more than SQL2000 tools.
I tend to start SSMS with Windows, and then it's there, ready to connect when I need it.
Rob Farley
LobsterPot Solutions & Adelaide SQL Server User Group
Company: http://www.lobsterpot.com.au
Blog: http://blogs.lobsterpot.com.au
July 28, 2006 at 9:36 am
The environment I am in does not use domain authentication and I have having a bear of a time connecting to SQL 2000 databases consistently with SQL authentication. Any suggestions?
July 31, 2006 at 12:33 am
Sean - (without trying it yet - I've just got back from 3 weeks away, and am just going through messages today) try pressing home a second time. So... holding shift, press Home twice. The first one should move you to the first character, and the second one should take you to the actually start of the line.
And yes - you don't get the drop statement... but 'create or alter' is useful, don't you think?
Rob
Rob Farley
LobsterPot Solutions & Adelaide SQL Server User Group
Company: http://www.lobsterpot.com.au
Blog: http://blogs.lobsterpot.com.au
June 26, 2007 at 7:53 am
I did this, and it works like a dream. Being the geek i am (hands up all) I made my own icon for this using the design of the original icon from query analyser.
June 26, 2007 at 6:38 pm
my comment of using Management Studio:
My role is just pure DBA but even that i've still got a bit difficulty using Ctrl+K Ctrl+C to comment code. Probably i'm too used to sql2k keyboard.
I ended up setting the keystores to sql2k (Tool > Option > Keyboard > SQL2K). Alas, not all keystores works the same, Ctrl+B doesnt let me resize my result pane anymore. The thing i miss most was my taskpad view in sql2k. I still can create a custom report doing the same thing, but its not the same because i've got hundreds of server. I cant deploy to all of them..
You give some away, take some back..
Simon
Simon Liew
Microsoft Certified Master: SQL Server 2008
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