October 16, 2013 at 7:17 am
Jeff Moden (10/15/2013)
Sean Lange (10/15/2013)
If you got your quote correct that person is moron.Heh... if the quote is correct, then that "DBA" is more off than on, so stop insulting morons. He's clearly a moroff. 😀
BWAHAAAA!!!!! That is awesome Jeff.
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October 16, 2013 at 7:20 am
dwain.c (10/15/2013)
Sean Lange (10/15/2013)
If you got your quote correct that person is moron.Well now Sean, there was no reason to hold back because we're all friends here. Why don't you tell us what you really think? 😛
We are certainly all friends here. I have never had much problem telling one of my friends they are a moron when it is the correct label for the situation. 😛 I would probably not normally be so direct but I just dealt with this exact same line of "reasoning" in the real world.
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October 16, 2013 at 7:39 am
Here is a clear example where bad coding practices continue to propagate. It's MOROFFs like this that give a bad name to DBAs....
Kurt
Kurt W. Zimmerman
SR DBA
Lefrak Organization
New York, NY
http://www.linkedin.com/in/kurtwzimmerman
October 16, 2013 at 7:49 am
lnardozi 61862 (10/15/2013)
TRY/CATCH statements are used to rollback a transaction if an error occurs in processing. The COMMIT goes at the end of the TRY and the ROLLBACK goes inside the CATCH. Without them, the transaction is left open if an error occurs during processing. This open transaction will continue to hold all the locks it established until the the connection is disconnected, the transaction is rolled back manually, or the process becomes a deadlock victim. In the case of a long running process that doesn't have a command timeout, that's essentially forever - at least until the 'all knowing' DBA terminates 'mysterious hung processes' as part of his daily routine.
Like I said in one of my previous posts on this thread and like what Gail just confirmed, that would all be true except for when SET XACT_ABORT is ON. Read about what it does and how it works in "Books Online".
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October 16, 2013 at 11:14 am
GilaMonster (10/15/2013)
lnardozi 61862 (10/15/2013)
Without them, the transaction is left open if an error occurs during processing.Unless XACT_ABORT is on.
Can I just check. In the pseudo code below, assume Col1 is an int
DECLARE @ReturnValue int
BEGIN TRANSACTION
INSERT INTO MyTable(Col1)
VALUES (25)
IF @@ERROR <> 0
BEGIN
SET @ReturnValue = -999
ROLLBACK TRANSACTION
RETURN @ReturnValue
END
INSERT INTO MyTable(Col1)
VALUES (17)
IF @@ERROR = 0
BEGIN
SET @ReturnValue = -998
ROLLBACK TRANSACTION
RETURN @ReturnValue
END
COMMIT TRANSACTION
Are you saying that unless XACT_ABORT is ON - in the example above, the first insert will not be rolled back?
I have just put the code above into a stored procedure and executed it. -998 is returned. No records are written into MyTable. XACT_ABORT is off.
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