How Would You Rate This? - Database Weekly (Dec 29, 2008)

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How Would You Rate This? - Database Weekly (Dec 29, 2008)

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December 26, 2008 at 7:08 pm

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GSquared SSC Guru Points: 260824 More actions · Answer 1

Since the vulnerability is fixed in SP 3 for SQL 2005, and since that's available now, I don't know that I'd panic about this one. It is a long time to leave it unfixed, but I hate to second-guess people on that kind of thing.

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Jeff Moden SSC Guru Points: 1004403 More actions · Answer 2

Heh... well, what's the matter? Didn't they follow the "time to market" and the "splash for the cash" paradigm that everyone seems to preach... instead of writing quality code that shares a concern for the customer at large?

They just did what I've been preaching against and that most of you (sorry Steve, you're included) seem to embrace when your ill-informed boss says "meet the schedule or die". No hair...

--Jeff Moden

RBAR is pronounced "ree-bar" and is a "Modenism" for Row-By-Agonizing-Row.
First step towards the paradigm shift of writing Set Based code:
________Stop thinking about what you want to do to a ROW... think, instead, of what you want to do to a COLUMN.

Change is inevitable... Change for the better is not.

Helpful Links:
How to post code problems
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Steve Jones - SSC Editor SSC Guru Points: 736458 More actions · Answer 3

I do think they ought to adhere to a schedule, but not at the expense of bad code. And this is a management issue, not a coder issue. I think MS as a whole is making a mistake here, not getting patches out.

Jeff Moden SSC Guru Points: 1004403 More actions · Answer 4

Steve Jones - Editor (12/31/2008)
I do think they ought to adhere to a schedule, but not at the expense of bad code.

[font="Arial Black"]FINALLY![/font] That's exactly what I've been saying for the last 30 years!

--Jeff Moden

RBAR is pronounced "ree-bar" and is a "Modenism" for Row-By-Agonizing-Row.
First step towards the paradigm shift of writing Set Based code:
________Stop thinking about what you want to do to a ROW... think, instead, of what you want to do to a COLUMN.

Change is inevitable... Change for the better is not.

Helpful Links:
How to post code problems
How to Post Performance Problems
Create a Tally Function (fnTally)

Steve Jones - SSC Editor SSC Guru Points: 736458 More actions · Answer 5

Steve Jones - SSC Editor

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January 1, 2009 at 12:21 pm

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Glad we agree on something 🙂

Happy New Year

Jeff Moden SSC Guru Points: 1004403 More actions · Answer 6

Heh... Happy New Year to you and your's, Steve!

Man... keep up the awesome work on SSC... I went a visited more than a dozen other sites just to see "what up", and they just don't hold a candle to what you've done on SSC. Some of the sites haven't had a question asked or answered since Sep 2008 or before.

--Jeff Moden

RBAR is pronounced "ree-bar" and is a "Modenism" for Row-By-Agonizing-Row.
First step towards the paradigm shift of writing Set Based code:
________Stop thinking about what you want to do to a ROW... think, instead, of what you want to do to a COLUMN.

Change is inevitable... Change for the better is not.

Helpful Links:
How to post code problems
How to Post Performance Problems
Create a Tally Function (fnTally)

Paul. SSC Eights! Points: 927 More actions · Answer 7

The biggest problem, in my opinion, with Microsoft, (and probably a fair number of other large companies), is a lack of openness and information about important things that us users want to know.

What they should've said, is that they're planning an update but it's been delayed and then provided a reasonable explanation.

After all, when someone tells you that something they're working on, is taking longer than expected because of *something*, your response will almost certainly be along the lines of "ok, let me know when you've finished", instead of tearing them apart for the delay.

Paul

Steve Jones - SSC Editor SSC Guru Points: 736458 More actions · Answer 8

Paul, I tend to agree with that. MS is open in some ways, but very closed in others.

Let us know there's something in the works. In this case, I'm not sure why a workaround wasn't disclosed in April. Information would help slow down the ping ponging people get from getting too upset about a lack of information and then upset about too much information.

Some of that won't go away as people like to complain. And reporters need something to write about.