How to prevent exhausted Indentity

  • Hi All,

    I'm a fan of identity data type, I always use identity as a primary key in all my tables. However, I'm now designing a heavy transactional database and deletion of data is not allowed. I predict it will run out of value within 7-8 years, tough I've set up my identity as a bigint type.

    I'd like to have suggestions from all of you who may have experience dealing with such a situation.

    I appreciate any comment and Thanks in advance.

    Hendry

  • One option might be to make it a composite key, add a one/two char column that would be a set to a default ("A"), combine it with your ident column. Add a job that checks the ident daily, if within x of hitting the max, change the default to "B".

    The other option is a uniqueidentifier. Not as fast as int/bigint, but you dont have to worry about it either.

    Andy

    http://www.sqlservercentral.com/columnists/awarren/

  • Well, I doubt you'll run out of values if you do something like this:

    
    
    CREATE TABLE Biggie(
    Id dec(38,0) IDENTITY(-99999999999999999999999999999999999999,1))

    --Jonathan



    --Jonathan

  • At that point you're at 17 bytes per ID compared to 16 for a GUID. Good alternative though. And I suppose that you could still possibly exhaust the range someday...!

    Andy

    http://www.sqlservercentral.com/columnists/awarren/

  • quote:


    At that point you're at 17 bytes per ID compared to 16 for a GUID. Good alternative though. And I suppose that you could still possibly exhaust the range someday...!

    Andy


    Hmmm; if he seeds his bigint starting at -2^63 and exhausts the values after 7 years, the the dec(38,0) will last about 1.4E+38 years. My example was obviously the extreme; dec(28,0) uses 13 bytes and should last Hendry until well after the sun burns out.

    --Jonathan



    --Jonathan

  • I hear you! (Unless the rate of usage increases...)

    Andy

    http://www.sqlservercentral.com/columnists/awarren/

  • Andy and Jonathan, Thanks for the suggestion. Both is really worthy for me. However, I have one more question. Why the uniqueidentifier is slower than other data type? Is that because of its big byte size?

    Hendry

  • Hi,

    from BOL

    quote:


    The main advantage of the uniqueidentifier data type is that the values generated by the Transact-SQL NEWID function or the application GUID functions are guaranteed to be unique throughout the world.

    The uniqueidentifier data type has several disadvantages:

    The values are long and obscure. This makes them difficult for users to type correctly, and more difficult for users to remember.

    The values are random and cannot accept any patterns that may make them more meaningful to users.

    There is no way to determine the sequence in which uniqueidentifier values were generated. They are not suited for existing applications that depend on incrementing key values serially.

    At 16 bytes, the uniqueidentifier data type is relatively large compared to other data types such as 4-byte integers. This means indexes built using uniqueidentifier keys may be relatively slower than implementing the indexes using an int key.

    Consider using the IDENTITY property when global uniqueness is not necessary, or when having a serially incrementing key is desirable.


    Frank

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    --
    Frank Kalis
    Microsoft SQL Server MVP
    Webmaster: http://www.insidesql.org/blogs
    My blog: http://www.insidesql.org/blogs/frankkalis/[/url]

  • Thanks for that!

    Hendry

  • quote:


    One option might be to make it a composite key, add a one/two char column that would be a set to a default ("A"), combine it with your ident column. Add a job that checks the ident daily, if within x of hitting the max, change the default to "B".


    How about using the year(2 or 4 digits) as part of the composite key? May need a sober scheduled job on 31 Dec 23:59:59.996 to reset the indentity to -9999999999??

  • quote:


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    Frank

    http://www.insidesql.de

    --
    Frank Kalis
    Microsoft SQL Server MVP
    Webmaster: http://www.insidesql.org/blogs
    My blog: http://www.insidesql.org/blogs/frankkalis/[/url]

  • Just a thought - why not use bigint?

    It holds -2^63 through 2^63-1 and storage size is ony 8 bytes?

    Jeremy

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