How to I getr around the \ issue

  • This query has issues due to the \.

    If I use a Where = it works fine. How do I get around this small annoying issue.

    SELECT name FROM sys.syslogins

    WHERE name in ('Domain\USER','Domain\User1')

  • ?

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  • What is the issue? Using '=' or 'in' both work in my tests.

    Please show the code and the error that you're seeing.

  • When the query above is executed it fails due to the \ in the string.

    If the query is changed to select * from syslogins where name = 'DOMAIN\USER' it works fine.

    Why doesn't it work for NOT IN ('DOMAIN\USER','DOMAIN\USER1') . This fails due to the \

  • Talib123 (12/21/2015)


    This query has issues due to the \.

    If I use a Where = it works fine. How do I get around this small annoying issue.

    SELECT name FROM sys.syslogins

    WHERE name in ('Domain\USER','Domain\User1')

    Nothing wrong with this query apart from the [name] being sysname or NVARCHAR(128), consider using the N prefix for the literals to avoid implicit conversion.

    😎

    SELECT

    SSL.name

    FROM sys.syslogins SSL

    WHERE SSL.name IN (N'Domain\USER',N'Domain\USER1');

  • IF something is not working and you want to prove it to us you need a couple of things.

    First, ask, how do I prove this to people who cant see my screen.

    Give us steps to act out the test.

    Give us expected results - I think it should be XYZ.

    Give us you actual results -But I am getting ZXY.

    'Tricky \. issue' is not a great expected result or step to reproduce or expected or actual result.

    What is the error code and message i.e. the actual result.

    Catch-all queries done right [/url]
    Gail Shaw's Performance Blog[/url]

  • Sorry now works fine

  • Talib123 (12/21/2015)


    This query has issues due to the \.

    If I use a Where = it works fine. How do I get around this small annoying issue.

    SELECT name FROM sys.syslogins

    WHERE name in ('Domain\USER','Domain\User1')

    Although I'm using 2012, I don't believe I would see any different results in 2008.

    Trying your query with IN, NOT IN or = all produce expected results.

    So, please show me the error that you are getting, or explain why you believe it is the '\' that is causing a problem.

    We can't see your monitor, so we can't even begin to guess what you must be seeing.

  • Talib123 (12/21/2015)


    Sorry now works fine

    Typo, or something more interesting we might all want to learn from?

  • BrainDonor (12/21/2015)


    Talib123 (12/21/2015)


    Sorry now works fine

    Typo, or something more interesting we might all want to learn from?

    Or wrong server on a different domain:-P

    😎

  • BrainDonor (12/21/2015)We can't see your monitor, so we can't even begin to guess what you must be seeing.

    Yes

    Somehow this fact is not well understood.

    Catch-all queries done right [/url]
    Gail Shaw's Performance Blog[/url]

  • Eirikur Eiriksson (12/21/2015)


    Talib123 (12/21/2015)


    This query has issues due to the \.

    If I use a Where = it works fine. How do I get around this small annoying issue.

    SELECT name FROM sys.syslogins

    WHERE name in ('Domain\USER','Domain\User1')

    Nothing wrong with this query apart from the [name] being sysname or NVARCHAR(128), consider using the N prefix for the literals to avoid implicit conversion.

    😎

    SELECT

    SSL.name

    FROM sys.syslogins SSL

    WHERE SSL.name IN (N'Domain\USER',N'Domain\USER1');

    No, never do that unless the statement won't run without you specifying a unicode literal. Implicitly converting a literal(s) is not a big deal.

    But if you put the N' when the column is not unicode, you'll force SQL to implicitly convert the column itself and that could be a real performance killer.

    SQL DBA,SQL Server MVP(07, 08, 09) "It's a dog-eat-dog world, and I'm wearing Milk-Bone underwear." "Norm", on "Cheers". Also from "Cheers", from "Carla": "You need to know 3 things about Tortelli men: Tortelli men draw women like flies; Tortelli men treat women like flies; Tortelli men's brains are in their flies".

  • ScottPletcher (12/21/2015)


    Eirikur Eiriksson (12/21/2015)


    Talib123 (12/21/2015)


    This query has issues due to the \.

    If I use a Where = it works fine. How do I get around this small annoying issue.

    SELECT name FROM sys.syslogins

    WHERE name in ('Domain\USER','Domain\User1')

    Nothing wrong with this query apart from the [name] being sysname or NVARCHAR(128), consider using the N prefix for the literals to avoid implicit conversion.

    😎

    SELECT

    SSL.name

    FROM sys.syslogins SSL

    WHERE SSL.name IN (N'Domain\USER',N'Domain\USER1');

    No, never do that unless the statement won't run without you specifying a unicode literal. Implicitly converting a literal(s) is not a big deal.

    But if you put the N' when the column is not unicode, you'll force SQL to implicitly convert the column itself and that could be a real performance killer.

    Try to avoid giving wrong advices.

    Especially on the matter you do not understand.

    Here is a script for you to expand the boundaries of your education:

    DECLARE @String NVARCHAR(10) SET @String = NCHAR(256+54)

    SELECT @String, CONVERT(VARCHAR(10), @String), N'??????', '??????'

    -- KK????????????

    DECLARE @test-2 TABLE (

    String NVARCHAR(50)

    )

    INSERT INTO @test-2

    ( String)

    SELECT N'K'

    SELECT * FROM @test-2 t

    WHERE t.String = N'K'

    --(0 row(s) affected)

    SELECT * FROM @test-2 t

    WHERE t.String = 'K'

    --(1 row(s) affected)

    Conclusion - implicit conversion from nvarchar to varchar may cause data loss.

    Good advice would be - always use appropriate data types, avoid implicit conversions by all means.

    In these terms the suggestion from Eirikur was a good one.

    _____________
    Code for TallyGenerator

  • ScottPletcher (12/21/2015)


    But if you put the N' when the column is not unicode, you'll force SQL to implicitly convert the column itself and that could be a real performance killer.

    This is incorrect, the value passed will be converted, not the whole column.

    Edit: my bad.

    😎

    Long lost count of the times where implicit conversions cause performance problems, yet to find a single case where correct data typing does.

  • Eirikur Eiriksson (12/22/2015)


    ScottPletcher (12/21/2015)


    But if you put the N' when the column is not unicode, you'll force SQL to implicitly convert the column itself and that could be a real performance killer.

    This is incorrect, the value passed will be converted, not the whole column.

    😎

    Long lost count of the times where implicit conversions cause performance problems, yet to find a single case where correct data typing does.

    Hmmm...really?

    nvarchar is of a higher precedence than varchar, so if the literal is nvarchar and the column varchar, then the column should be converted.

    That is confirmed with the following quick test:

    CREATE TABLE #test (some_string varchar(max));

    INSERT INTO #test

    SELECT TOP 1000000 ac1.name

    FROM sys.all_columns ac1

    CROSS JOIN

    sys.all_columns ac2;

    SELECT COUNT(*)

    FROM #test

    WHERE some_string='dbname';

    SELECT COUNT(*)

    FROM #test

    WHERE some_string=N'dbname';

    DROP TABLE #test;

    The second SELECT causes a conversion of the values in the column, a fact that is pointed out as a warning in the execution plan, and results in a noticeable increase in CPU for the second query.

    I'm probably just misunderstanding what's being claimed 🙂

    Cheers!

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