August 8, 2011 at 9:27 am
WayneS (8/8/2011)
@SQLFRNDZ (8/8/2011)
I understood Lynn, that I did not mention any where that I want to become MVP. I just posted publicly that how to become MVP that means I see this MVP logo very often as I follow many SQL sites.My intension is what would be the requirement other than what I know to become MVP but not that I have to.
Then may I ask how you propose to add the MVP to your resume without actually becoming one?
And how do you read that into any of the words you quote before or after this point in your comment? Frankly, I think you must be trying very hard to find something that isn't there and succeeding in pulling the wool over your own eyes to find that meaning in anything @SQLFRNDZ has said. You've presumably noticed that the tense sequence in the sentence you quote below could not occur in standard English, but not bothered to work out what it would be in standard English and what that implies for the meaning of the sentence.
@SQLFRNDZ (8/5/2011)
Thank you for the information.I was just posted this topic because I see this MVP tag on most sites and blogs of experts and I wonder why I shouldn't have that on my resume? not for pay but pride.
Thanks Gila
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Tom
August 8, 2011 at 10:45 am
Tom.Thomson (8/8/2011)
Lynn Pettis (8/8/2011)
@SQLFRNDZ (8/8/2011)
I understood Lynn, that I did not mention any where that I want to become MVP.Actually, you did:
@SQLFRNDZ (8/5/2011)
...Thanks Kraig and I will be an upcoming MVP in near future as I love to help people.
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Of course, as Jeff has pointed out, his current skill and knowledge level in SQL Server is such that he has a great deal to learn before he could imaginably become an MVP. ...
I wish this were true. I have seen far too many MVPs at about the same skill level. I have also seen far too many that have plagiarized content from MS as well as other MVPs. I'm not saying that either of those two things should exist - but they do. It is unfortunate, but the real qualifier is community involvement and how well you can document that involvement.
Jason...AKA CirqueDeSQLeil
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I have given a name to my pain...MCM SQL Server, MVP
SQL RNNR
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August 8, 2011 at 10:51 am
Ya we all remember those 1-2 guys, I remember that being a good deterent for me ever wanting to be assiciated with that title. I wasn't ever shooting for that, but that kind of made it official :pinch:
August 8, 2011 at 10:55 am
I somewhat agree. I have a list of a few more than can be counted on one hand. It does act as a deterrent. That said, it is also something that I don't aspire to - and certainly wouldn't ever game the system for it.
I'm happy being involved and helping where I can.
Jason...AKA CirqueDeSQLeil
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I have given a name to my pain...MCM SQL Server, MVP
SQL RNNR
Posting Performance Based Questions - Gail Shaw[/url]
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August 8, 2011 at 10:56 am
I must also admit that thanks to SQLFRNDZ, I learned a new trick (Activity Monitor and Profiler) 😉
Jason...AKA CirqueDeSQLeil
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I have given a name to my pain...MCM SQL Server, MVP
SQL RNNR
Posting Performance Based Questions - Gail Shaw[/url]
Learn Extended Events
August 8, 2011 at 10:57 am
I have had mixed reviews regarding my interpretation of your statement regarding an up and coming MVP, so I wish to apologize for jumping to what may have been an incorrect interpretation.
August 8, 2011 at 11:03 am
Here's my little 0.0000002$.
Everybody's trying to help everybody on this thread (and community).
Nobody's tried to insult anybody and every comment should be taken with a big spoon of salt.
Let's go back to answering question instead of debating this point to death ;-).
August 8, 2011 at 11:05 am
SQLRNNR (8/8/2011)
I must also admit that thanks to SQLFRNDZ, I learned a new trick (Activity Monitor and Profiler) 😉
I should also say thanks to you as I got this Activity monitor script through some DMV's which shows current exec tasks initially but you showed me how to get through profiler too.
Happy Monday!..
Knowledge is all about sharing ... Thanks
August 8, 2011 at 11:08 am
August 8, 2011 at 12:23 pm
Ninja's_RGR'us (8/6/2011)
Perry Whittle (8/6/2011)
Ninja's_RGR'us (8/5/2011)
I say "then" because between all 5 of us we probably close 100-150 threads / day and we pretty much cover 24 / 7.You should be looking more to the quality of your posts not the quantity! It's a common misconception that 1000s of posts are better than just a small portion providing sound advice.
When did I start giving wrong advice to increase post count?!?!
Not taking it personally but I'm not sure I understand what you mean. I do agree that quality is prime and I always give my best, like 90+% of the people here (jus tto give conservative figures).
this is not directed at you in person it's an opinion from someone who has previously acted as a forum moderator on a large forum.
I used to see time and time again, people posting to increase their post count thinking it was in some way important, all it it did was clog up the forums. I'm just saying one well rounded concise post is better than 100 posts of comments. This is where all users should be looking, quality not quantity!
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August 8, 2011 at 2:34 pm
Thanks for clarifying Perry.
August 8, 2011 at 6:16 pm
Just to bring this thread back on topic, I was told by an MVP that a few years ago Microsoft awarded MVP status to anyone who was running a User Group.
As far as methods go I suppose it is one way, although it still is a fair amount of work: arranging venues, lining up speakers, doing presentations yourself if speakers are unavailable. However it might help explain Jeff's comment on MVPs who appear less knowledgeable than others.
Steve.
August 8, 2011 at 7:25 pm
Fal (8/8/2011)
Just to bring this thread back on topic, I was told by an MVP that a few years ago Microsoft awarded MVP status to anyone who was running a User Group.
There are many contributing factors , running a UG can be one,
I know many people who run UG's who are not MVP's and many MVP's who do not run UG's, so its not as simple as run a ug, get MVP ( to paraphrase )
August 9, 2011 at 2:50 am
Fal (8/8/2011)
Just to bring this thread back on topic, I was told by an MVP that a few years ago Microsoft awarded MVP status to anyone who was running a User Group.
Nope. Not an automatic award, far from.
To give you an example, look at how many regulars here run usergroups (Roy and Jason come to mind) but neither is an MVP. Grant ran a usergroup for years before he was awarded. I started a usergroup after I was awarded.
As far as methods go I suppose it is one way, although it still is a fair amount of work: arranging venues, lining up speakers, doing presentations yourself if speakers are unavailable.
It's a reasonably large amount of work, yes.
Gail Shaw
Microsoft Certified Master: SQL Server, MVP, M.Sc (Comp Sci)
SQL In The Wild: Discussions on DB performance with occasional diversions into recoverability
August 9, 2011 at 7:32 am
It would be a mistake from their part if they gave MVP award just to people who runs a UG. For example, I run a UG just like Gail said, but do I deserve an MVP status? Heck No. I do not have enough knowledge, I do not write that many articles nor is my blog that technical. I am not that active in forums.
From what I heard, running a UG is just one plus point. You should have fairly good knowledge in at least one part of SQL Server (No need to know it all), You should be actively helping the community in the SQL Server platform. Giving presentation is a plus point, So is writing, editing and proof reading a book.
Nominating a person is not so easy either. You have to collect all the info of the person who is nominated and then you have to send it in a certain format if I recollect correctly. After that they will just send an email saying that the name has been forwarded to the correct zone. Once you get that email you are out of the selection. They will not contact you again.
-Roy
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