October 8, 2009 at 9:00 am
I'd rather not give this troll such hints, Gus. Kill this thread.
--Jeff Moden
Change is inevitable... Change for the better is not.
October 8, 2009 at 9:21 am
Jeff Moden (10/8/2009)
I'd rather not give this troll such hints, Gus. Kill this thread.
I'm not too worried about him taking my comment and doing anything useful with it. "Murder outs" is what I've always found on this kind of thing.
- Gus "GSquared", RSVP, OODA, MAP, NMVP, FAQ, SAT, SQL, DNA, RNA, UOI, IOU, AM, PM, AD, BC, BCE, USA, UN, CF, ROFL, LOL, ETC
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October 8, 2009 at 9:26 am
OP is
a) an idiot for thinking he can pull it off for any amount of time
b) morally reprehensible
c) in italy
its point c there that has stopped me from being worried about this.. my job should be safe 😉
plus i dont think the OP is smart enough to trick anyone who has a modicum of knowledge
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October 8, 2009 at 9:29 am
GSquared (10/8/2009)
On the other hand, I'd consider it a positive if it started with, "I haven't had to do that, so I'm not sure, but what I'd start with is going to MSDN and SSC and looking to see what others have done and what recommended practices are.
That's asking way more than I'd ever get from local candidates. Maybe it works in the US/Europe, here I'd likely hire a candidate on the spot if they mentioned MSDN or popular SQL forums or a blog that they followed, etc.
Gail Shaw
Microsoft Certified Master: SQL Server, MVP, M.Sc (Comp Sci)
SQL In The Wild: Discussions on DB performance with occasional diversions into recoverability
October 8, 2009 at 9:31 am
I have to agree with GSquared here.. In some cases not knowing isn't so bad, but you had better have a plan to how you *will know* in the short term.
CEWII
October 8, 2009 at 9:33 am
GilaMonster (10/8/2009)
GSquared (10/8/2009)
On the other hand, I'd consider it a positive if it started with, "I haven't had to do that, so I'm not sure, but what I'd start with is going to MSDN and SSC and looking to see what others have done and what recommended practices are.That's asking way more than I'd ever get from local candidates. Maybe it works in the US/Europe, here I'd likely hire a candidate on the spot if they mentioned MSDN or popular SQL forums or a blog that they followed, etc.
Gail, I love MSDN and forums/blogs..
got a job for me 😉
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October 8, 2009 at 9:41 am
torpkev (10/8/2009)
Gail, I love MSDN and forums/blogs..got a job for me 😉
I'm consulting these days. If you'd asked that a year ago, the answer would have been yes. Providing you were willing to relocate that is...
Gail Shaw
Microsoft Certified Master: SQL Server, MVP, M.Sc (Comp Sci)
SQL In The Wild: Discussions on DB performance with occasional diversions into recoverability
October 8, 2009 at 9:42 am
worth a shot 😉
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October 8, 2009 at 9:54 am
torpkev (10/8/2009)
OP isa) an idiot for thinking he can pull it off for any amount of time
b) morally reprehensible
c) in italy
I don't think he's in Italy. It's quite unlikely to be interviewed by an Indian woman here in Italy.
And also, sad but true, DBA in Italy means "Oracle DBA". SQL Server is "something that doesn't need a DBA".
-- Gianluca Sartori
October 8, 2009 at 9:57 am
You could be correct:
ItalianOlgi (10/2/2009)
Hi, my name Olgi, I am from Italy.
OP is FROM italy.. not necessarily IN italy.. bad assumption to make..
I dont really care where the OP is.. so long as he aint here 🙂
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October 8, 2009 at 9:57 am
GilaMonster (10/8/2009)
GSquared (10/8/2009)
On the other hand, I'd consider it a positive if it started with, "I haven't had to do that, so I'm not sure, but what I'd start with is going to MSDN and SSC and looking to see what others have done and what recommended practices are.That's asking way more than I'd ever get from local candidates. Maybe it works in the US/Europe, here I'd likely hire a candidate on the spot if they mentioned MSDN or popular SQL forums or a blog that they followed, etc.
Which is another one of the reasons I prefer a "show me" approach to technical interviews.
And, honestly, it's way more than I'd expect from most people in the US. Our "education" system is so weak that most don't know how to find answers, and have been brought up to believe in getting an A for effort, even if the answer is total rubbish.
- Gus "GSquared", RSVP, OODA, MAP, NMVP, FAQ, SAT, SQL, DNA, RNA, UOI, IOU, AM, PM, AD, BC, BCE, USA, UN, CF, ROFL, LOL, ETC
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October 8, 2009 at 10:17 am
GSquared (10/8/2009)
GilaMonster (10/8/2009)
GSquared (10/8/2009)
On the other hand, I'd consider it a positive if it started with, "I haven't had to do that, so I'm not sure, but what I'd start with is going to MSDN and SSC and looking to see what others have done and what recommended practices are.That's asking way more than I'd ever get from local candidates. Maybe it works in the US/Europe, here I'd likely hire a candidate on the spot if they mentioned MSDN or popular SQL forums or a blog that they followed, etc.
Which is another one of the reasons I prefer a "show me" approach to technical interviews.
And, honestly, it's way more than I'd expect from most people in the US. Our "education" system is so weak that most don't know how to find answers, and have been brought up to believe in getting an A for effort, even if the answer is total rubbish.
That is quite surprising I thought education in the UK was bad. You have to balance things out though, it is a plus point if someone knows where to look for answers and help but if someone depends on them too much...
I would actually like the op to come back and defend his corner so to speak, as far as the topic is going, it is pretty clear that noone agrees with what he has said he has done. but I would like to hear his justification and view point. if for nothing else, for him to accept that in other people eyes he has done wrong...
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October 8, 2009 at 10:20 am
It's quite frurstrating that the only other Italian person I ever found on these forums is such a fool.
-- Gianluca Sartori
October 8, 2009 at 10:26 am
Gianluca Sartori (10/8/2009)
It's quite frurstrating that the only other Italian person I ever found on these forums is such a fool.
You're #1 :exclamationmark:
October 8, 2009 at 10:46 am
GSquared (10/8/2009)
And, honestly, it's way more than I'd expect from most people in the US. Our "education" system is so weak that most don't know how to find answers, and have been brought up to believe in getting an A for effort, even if the answer is total rubbish.
Sounds familiar.
I had a colleague who believed that he deserved to be classified a top employee and to get a big raise and massive bonus for doing just the duties laid down for his job and not a scrap more (and sometimes not even that)
Gail Shaw
Microsoft Certified Master: SQL Server, MVP, M.Sc (Comp Sci)
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