December 23, 2011 at 11:30 am
paul.goldstraw (12/23/2011)
I got the answer right but only based on the American-centric nature of previous questions. A question for the Americans here though; if Reindeer is the logical answer and Turkey is for Thanksgiving, what do you eat for Christmas Dinner? Is it black cat?
I have never seen one myself, but I hear some people eat a creature called a turducen. It has 6 drumsticks!
December 23, 2011 at 12:40 pm
was torn between reindeer and turkey, but knowing that americans eat turkey at thanksgiving guessed right.
so what do americans traditionanlly eat at christmas?
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December 23, 2011 at 12:41 pm
paul.goldstraw (12/23/2011)
I got the answer right but only based on the American-centric nature of previous questions. A question for the Americans here though; if Reindeer is the logical answer and Turkey is for Thanksgiving, what do you eat for Christmas Dinner? Is it black cat?
Since the question did NOT ask what we eat for the holiday but the item most associated with Christmas it is of course Reindeer pulling Santa's sleigh.
Now at our family gathering on both Thanksgiving and Christmas, we typically have Roast Turkey, Baked Ham, assorted vegetables - potatoes, string beans, carrots, cabbage all set on the table for each individual to select what they want and the quantities they want. Desert is typically a slice of baked apple pie with or without ice cream topping.
December 23, 2011 at 1:24 pm
george sibbald (12/23/2011)
was torn between reindeer and turkey, but knowing that americans eat turkey at thanksgiving guessed right.so what do americans traditionanlly eat at christmas?
With Christmas being much more internationally celebrated than Thanksgiving, and with such a wide diversity of ethnicities in the U.S.A., I'm not sure there is a traditional Christmas dinner. In our home we'll often have a home-grown turkey (a repeat of Thanksgiving dinner), but we've had ham, chicken, roast beef, pea soup (Dutch style), even Pizza (when the kids were younger)!
Merry Christmas to all!
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December 23, 2011 at 1:29 pm
Mike Dougherty-384281 (12/23/2011)
Just to clarify for those confused by the eating association to these animals, we don't eat black cats for Halloween either.
Ewww! Of course not. They are far to stringy. For Halloween we eat small children, of course. Why else the candy to lure them in?
But seriously...
Just want to say thanks for everything to all of the wonderful folks here on SSC. Best of all in the New Year and all the new years to come.
I think I speak for a lot the faithful readers in saying that we wouldn't be nearly as successful in our daily endeavors if it weren't for you guys. Thanks again.
December 23, 2011 at 11:11 pm
Americans. Sigh.
Happy Christmas, wherever you are. Off to find some forum questions to replace the seven points missed here today.
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December 24, 2011 at 11:11 am
kaspencer (12/23/2011)
I have complained before about the fact that many of your non-SQLserver questions are far too centred on the American and assumes that everyone is American and lives in the USA.Turkey is a valid answer, so you are absolutely incorrect in not allowing a point for selecting it.
I have never been quite sure of exactly what is meant by "Thanksgiving" but rest assured, our standard food fare at Christmas is turkey. Maybe Goose is a distant second. Please put this information into your database for future reference.
So there! Happy Christmas (and be damned with the expression "Happy Holidays"!).
Kenneth Spencer
Yes, there is cultural bias there. 😀
But you appear to suffer from cultural bias too - relating to a cultural difference between the old and the young; if you are thinking about food, to me Turkey is a distant third; and Goose a poor second to Salmon.:-P
It's actually very convenient that I now live in a country (one of several in Europe) where traditional Christmas food is fish, and no longer in Britain where it has for a couple of decades been predominantly boring old Turkey. 🙂
But despite that, the correct answer should perhaps be something like Ox, or *** (the animals in the stable) or Sheep (the flock guarded by those who received an angelic visit) or Camel (how the kings travelled from port to stable) - after all, the first five letters in the name of the holiday suggest we should interpret the question that way. :alien:
However, I believe that the gross commercialism that has overtaken the western world actually makes Reindeer" the correct answer - not a cultural bias based on which siode of the atlantic one might be, as you suggest, but a cultural bias based on the idea that the most important thing about the holiday is presents (because they drtive retailers' profits) and their mythical means of delivery. :w00t:
Of course in civilised countries, which include neither England nor the USA, people are aware that Epiphany happened some time after the birth - traditionally 12 days - and the gifts are assoiated not with Christmas but with that festival - and are received on the night of 5th January (that of course rules out Camel as well as Reindeer since the Camels belong 12 days after Christmas).
ANyway, Merry Christmas to one and all. Even to the English. Guidheam slàinte is sòlas dhuibh a h-uile latha a chi 's nach fhaic.
Tom
December 24, 2011 at 11:24 am
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Mike Dougherty-384281 (12/23/2011)
Just to clarify for those confused by the eating association to these animals, we don't eat black cats for Halloween either.Well, maybe. Ever heard the song Cat's in the Kettle?
Maybe, but I'm pretty sure no one eats bunnies on Easter!
There you would be wrong.
Quite a lot of people here eat bunnies at any time of year, including Easter. Maybe that's why the people are sometimes referred to as "conejeros". I've been fed fried rabbit on Easter Saturday in France, and eaten rabbit pie on Easter Monday in Scotland, so it's not just here either.
Tom
December 24, 2011 at 12:04 pm
Thanks for your reply Tom ...
I wouldn't wish to ruin the Christmas Spirit by arguing too dramatically with your post. But I would say that the civilised are not restricted to the Christian, and I did not wish to create an impression that that was what I meant.
Of course, notwithstanding you view expressed to the contrary, I am glad to say that there are parts of England (and parts of the USA too) which are highly civilised - but I am not at all sure what the consumption of fish or turkey at Christmas has to do with civilisation. Feel free to enlighten me.
I guessed that you were writing from France - no doubt you'll correct me if I am wrong - and if so you'll be well aware of what has happened to the fish from our English and Scotish waters - much of it has been thrown back into the sea dead! I would not dare ask you if you know why!
Merry Christmas to you Tom.
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December 24, 2011 at 5:58 pm
kaspencer (12/24/2011)
Thanks for your reply Tom ...I wouldn't wish to ruin the Christmas Spirit by arguing too dramatically with your post. But I would say that the civilised are not restricted to the Christian, and I did not wish to create an impression that that was what I meant.
I agree that the civilised are not restricted to the Christian, but I do feel that countries which celebrate Christmas ought to have some concept of its origins and of the origin of the associated custom of giving gifts. Basically its the act of adopting a foreign custom without any attempt to understand what it is, or to completely forget the origins of one's own customs, that I regard as a bit uncivilised. Anyway, being a Scot I am naturally inclined to call the English uncivilised at every opportunity (just look at tuition fees and at charges for old people's homes for two obvious contemporary reasons).
Of course, notwithstanding you view expressed to the contrary, I am glad to say that there are parts of England (and parts of the USA too) which are highly civilised - but I am not at all sure what the consumption of fish or turkey at Christmas has to do with civilisation. Feel free to enlighten me.
Well, parts are indeed civilised. But in a country governed mainly by professional politicians and professional public servants with little or no interest in understanding issues except as they affect the electoral advantage of their party (for the politicians) or the amount of influence they and their petty empires can wield (for the officials), although there may be civilised parts there is not a civilised whole; and both the UK and the USA have been such countries for quite a long time (longer than Christmas turkeys have been popular in the UK). I suspect that civilisation has no connection with the question of fish or turkey for Christmas dinner, and didn't suggest that it had; my point about turkey versus fish and/or goose was that the tradition of turkey for Christmas is pretty new in Britain (turkey for Christmas was something that almost no-one did during most of my life to date) rather than something long established as you seemed to suggest and not something that all of us British would recognise as the most obvious animal association with Christmas even if we were thinking about food.
I guessed that you were writing from France - no doubt you'll correct me if I am wrong - and if so you'll be well aware of what has happened to the fish from our English and Scotish waters - much of it has been thrown back into the sea dead! I would not dare ask you if you know why!
I'm a long way south of France, in a Spanish Island about 480 miles south west of Casablanca. There is plenty of local fish around here (I don't think either vieja is found in British waters, nor dorada). Most of what time I have spent in France was spent in the south, where the Mediterranean and the Bay of Biscay were the source of most saltwater fish (and I'm pretty sure the freshwater fish were not from English or Scottish waters either). And I do of course know why much fish is thrown dead into the sea: it's because the stupidity, selfishness, and intransigence of various European governments (the French, the British, and others) has precluded the agreement of any sane conservation policy and has landed us instead with a regime which encourages this wasteful and destructive nonsense.
Merry Christmas to you Tom.
And to you too.
Tom
December 24, 2011 at 9:10 pm
Guys, it's Christmas! Just that, Christmas. C'mon... 😛
Merry Christmas.
Best regards,
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December 25, 2011 at 6:36 am
easy point!!! thanks Steve!!!!
Happy Christmas for all!!!!!
December 25, 2011 at 6:42 am
Merry Christmas ALL
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December 25, 2011 at 9:51 pm
Happy and merry X-mass
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December 25, 2011 at 11:26 pm
Merry Christmas and peace on Earth to all.
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