July 3, 2012 at 2:52 am
Hi All,
I am a MSSQL DBA since 2005 & I love RDBMS, currently working as Senior DBA in an Indian company. Company is class A ISP, providing VoIP, Domains, Hosting, Cloud, & Managed Services. I am looking for suggestions on my future career based on my existing strengths and self suggestions.
Requested to Senior DBAs, MVPs to suggest future career.
Existing Strengths:-
1.Bachelor of Science in 2001, Jiwaji University, India
2.Certification on Computer Science from APTECH in 2002
3.Having 7 years of experience on SQL Server (MCDBA, MCITP)
4.Excellent in SQL Server Report Deigning & Development
5.Excellent Data presentation skills
6.Excellent knowledge and work experience in Finance & Accounting Domain
7.Excellent knowledge of Automobile Manufacturing Companies Domain
8.Experience in customised LOB Application development on FoxPro and Visual Basic
9.Hungry to learn.
Self Suggested option:-
1.Fluent knowledge in Finance & Accounts, Inventory, Vendor, and Assets Management but How I can make career along with my MSSQL Database Skills. Should I go with Oracle App, SAP or ?
2.Should I prepare me for SQL Server Certified Master in future?
3.I am hungry to develop next generation customised Line of Business Application based on RDBMS. I know a lot to develop LOB app, but do not have in depth knowledge of new generation Programming Languages like .NET, WPF, Silverlight & Design Pattern like MVC, MVVM
Thanks,
Ram
MSSQL DBA
July 3, 2012 at 5:46 am
What is your MCM in? SQL Server?
--Jeff Moden
Change is inevitable... Change for the better is not.
July 3, 2012 at 5:48 am
Yes! MCM in SQL
Ram
MSSQL DBA
July 3, 2012 at 7:11 am
I Googled your name and you have virtually no web presence. You might want to start sharing some of that fine MCM knowledge on forums and maybe start writing some articles to, hopefully, "build your brand" and your reputation. Employers seem to take great stock in people who return knowledge to the community.
--Jeff Moden
Change is inevitable... Change for the better is not.
July 3, 2012 at 7:30 am
I think the OP wants to acheive a MCM rather than he already has an MCM as I just checked the MCM list and couldn't find Ramdas in the list.
July 3, 2012 at 7:36 am
anthony.green (7/3/2012)
I think the OP wants to acheive a MCM rather than he already has an MCM as I just checked the MCM list and couldn't find Ramdas in the list.
Yep. Looking back at it, it's plain as day. Not sure why I thought he already had one. Thanks for the correction, Anthony.
Still, the advice I gave stands. There are few ways better to learn new things than to study something well enough to help others in their endeavors.
--Jeff Moden
Change is inevitable... Change for the better is not.
July 3, 2012 at 7:37 am
I can say that I find DBA work very satisfying. Pays well, too.
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July 4, 2012 at 1:18 am
anthony.green (7/3/2012)
I think the OP wants to acheive a MCM rather than he already has an MCM as I just checked the MCM list and couldn't find Ramdas in the list.
Yes! You are right. Right now I am not having MCM in SQL. it is the option one of my selft suggested options.
I corrected it.
Ram
MSSQL DBA
July 4, 2012 at 1:35 am
What about Oracle App Certification or SAP Certification in respective my existing skills.?
Ram
MSSQL DBA
July 8, 2012 at 4:58 am
Ramdas Baghel (7/4/2012)
What about Oracle App Certification or SAP Certification in respective my existing skills.?
That's all different stuff. Nothing at all wrong with Oracle or SAP, but I can't suggest you pursue certifications in them. Personally, I don't trust certifications. I trust experience and demonstrated knowledge. Although the SQL Server MCM is an exception. Anyone with that, I guarantee, they know what they're talking about.
Can you make a career of SQL Server? Well... so far, yes. I've been working with it for over 20 years. It's changed somewhat over that time, but not that much. Looking forward as far as I can see, I'd say we have at least 5-10 more years of work in SQL Server. Past that, who knows? Just be constantly learning about new stuff. When the next thing comes along, start using it. That's my plan.
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SQL Server Query Performance Tuning
July 8, 2012 at 10:15 am
Grant Fritchey (7/8/2012)
I trust experience and demonstrated knowledge. Although the SQL Server MCM is an exception. Anyone with that, I guarantee, they know what they're talking about.
I guess we'd have to clarify that a bit by asking "they're guaranteed to know about what?" because I just saw (yesterday) some recommendations by an MCM on tuning a query that, while not technically incorrect, were woefully short (to the point of being misleading) of any recommendation that someone like you or I would give. The recommendation sucked so bad that it immediately discredited the MCM cert in my eyes to the same low level that I hold the other certs and degrees in general... "there wil be good ones and there will be bad ones". Yeah... it was that bad, in my opinion.
It all falls back on the person who has the cert or degree. Just because they have one, doesn't necessarily guarantee that they know squat about anything. For example, I verified that one interviewee did, indeed, have a Phd in Mathematics yet he couldn't do the simple conversion of "14 base 16" to decimal in his head. He actually told me that he'd need a piece of paper, a pencil, and some time to figure it out and was a little bit rude about it, as well.
Of course, I'm probably one of the few people in the world with the nads to ask a Phd such a simple math question but I needed to know if he could actually do the job my boss was trying to hire a "Mathematician" for.
I'd do the same with any MCM during an interview. I'd start it just like all the others I do... "Let's start off simple... What is the T-SQL function that will return the current date and time?" Heh... Yeah... I've actually had people who claim 8-10 years of experience on their resume that didn't know.
--Jeff Moden
Change is inevitable... Change for the better is not.
July 8, 2012 at 11:15 am
Jeff Moden (7/8/2012)
necause I just saw (yesterday) some recommendations by an MCM on tuning a query that, while not technically incorrect, were woefully short (to the point of being misleading) of any recommendation that someone like you or I would give. The recommendation sucked so bad that it immediately discredited the MCM cert in my eyes to the same low level that I hold the other certs and degrees in general...
Wow, that's just.... Feel free to try the MCM and see how useless it it... (note that there's a practical lab component that you can't pass without real, practical experience)
Everyone has their specialities. Denny Cherry is an MCM, yet his query tuning knowledge is not at an exceptionally high level. He's certainly capable, but he's not a query tuning expert like Grant. He is exceptionally good at HADR and the hardware level and his knowledge in that area is far superior to most people I know. Paul Randal is not a performance tuning specialist (he'll admit that), he'll miss options that people who are performance tuning specialists will, he's an expert on the storage engine.
It could be that the person missed something in the question, or overlooked a possibility because they were short on time. Are you really going to call a cert useless because of one incident with one person? We all get things wrong at times. One case of < perfection = useless? Really?
p.s. For the record, I doubted that I'd passed the MCM after the lab exam, because of the level of difficulty.
Gail Shaw
Microsoft Certified Master: SQL Server, MVP, M.Sc (Comp Sci)
SQL In The Wild: Discussions on DB performance with occasional diversions into recoverability
July 8, 2012 at 11:43 am
Jeff, are you sure that person was an MCM? After all, you already made that mistake once in this thread. What was the bad advice given by the MCM?
Edit: Gail is right about specialties; however, one of the base principles of being an MCM is to "know what you know, know what you don't know, and never confuse the two." An MCM isn't going to know absolutely everything, but they should know enough not to advise people on things they don't know.
July 8, 2012 at 12:23 pm
By the way guys, I never meant for the MCM to imply that the bearers knew everything. I just mean, I really trust the test. Anyone passing the entire thing has to have real knowledge, not memorization of the books online or regurgitation from dump sites. Will they get all things right all the time? Hell no. Even within their specialty people will make mistakes. Sorry for being unclear.
"The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood"
- Theodore Roosevelt
Author of:
SQL Server Execution Plans
SQL Server Query Performance Tuning
July 8, 2012 at 1:35 pm
GilaMonster (7/8/2012)
Jeff Moden (7/8/2012)
necause I just saw (yesterday) some recommendations by an MCM on tuning a query that, while not technically incorrect, were woefully short (to the point of being misleading) of any recommendation that someone like you or I would give. The recommendation sucked so bad that it immediately discredited the MCM cert in my eyes to the same low level that I hold the other certs and degrees in general...Wow, that's just.... Feel free to try the MCM and see how useless it it... (note that there's a practical lab component that you can't pass without real, practical experience)
Everyone has their specialities. Denny Cherry is an MCM, yet his query tuning knowledge is not at an exceptionally high level. He's certainly capable, but he's not a query tuning expert like Grant. He is exceptionally good at HADR and the hardware level and his knowledge in that area is far superior to most people I know. Paul Randal is not a performance tuning specialist (he'll admit that), he'll miss options that people who are performance tuning specialists will, he's an expert on the storage engine.
It could be that the person missed something in the question, or overlooked a possibility because they were short on time. Are you really going to call a cert useless because of one incident with one person? We all get things wrong at times. One case of < perfection = useless? Really?
p.s. For the record, I doubted that I'd passed the MCM after the lab exam, because of the level of difficulty.
Jeez Gail, calm down! I NEVER said that MCM is "useless". It's just not the pancea of knowledge that people make it out to be. You've actually given a great example of precisely what I'm talking about with the Denny Cherry example.
--Jeff Moden
Change is inevitable... Change for the better is not.
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