June 30, 2005 at 3:55 am
Hi,
I have a server in which we are implementing full text search. Some how it is not working. We have removed the BUILTIN\Adminstrators. We have granted rights for a user(Security administrator and Database craetor server roles and dbo database role ).
KB article says that we need to have BUILTIN\ADMINISTRATORS.
Any suggesttion how to get that working
Thanks in advance
Helen
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June 30, 2005 at 6:53 am
Have you tried just adding "BUILTIN\Administrators" (typing it in) via EM - Security ?! What error messages do you get when you try to do this ?!
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June 30, 2005 at 7:36 am
Hi Sushila,
I have added Builtin\administrators via EM. I did not get any errors while adding. It was successful.
DO I NEED TO RESTART SO THAT IT USES THIS LOGIN AS STARTUP ACCOUNT
Please clarify.. This is in production
Helen
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June 30, 2005 at 7:46 am
As far as I know (haven't come up with this issue myself) - if you just reset the permissions via the "server roles" and "database access" tabs to what it was before you deleted it, it should be ok!
You should reboot only if this doesn't work! hth!
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July 1, 2005 at 1:17 am
July 1, 2005 at 7:24 am
As mentioned in the MS article posted above by Andy, you can run full-text search without BUILTIN\Administrators by creating a Windows login for NT Authority\System and adding it to the sysadmin role. I run all my servers that way, and it works well. That way, domain admins can't access SQL Server unless you (as the DBA) give them permission.
July 1, 2005 at 7:31 am
Hi
I have even tried that using the following command and still not able to
exec sp_grantlogin N'NT Authority\System'
exec sp_defaultdb N'NT Authority\System', N'master'
exec sp_defaultlanguage N'NT Authority\System','us_english'
exec sp_addsrvrolemember N'NT Authority\System', sysadmin
My question is do i need to restart the service..
What i havent tried is to reregister some dlls and removing keys that have empty values in HKEY_Class_root's file type.
Helen
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July 1, 2005 at 9:27 am
Q. My question is do i need to restart the service..
A. First of all, are you refering to the restarting the SQL Server (MSSQLServer) service or the Microsoft Search (MSSearch) service? If the latter, then while I don't believe that this is required, you should do it. Note, while the service is stopped and prior to starting, your users will get an error that the MSSearch service is not running. However, it should start quickly and the downtime should be brief. If your refering to the former, then I suspect that you will not have to restart the MSSQLServer service. However, if the restarting of the MSSearch services (try this first) does not allow for SQL Full Text Search queries to succeed, then by all means stop and restart the MSSQLServer service!
Hope that helps!
John
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July 1, 2005 at 11:06 am
When you say full-text search is "not working", exactly what do you mean? Can you create catalogs? Can you enable FTS for a database? What errors do you get, if any?
July 6, 2005 at 3:29 am
Hi,
Please see my error message
Event Type: Warning
Event Source: Microsoft Search
Event Category: Gatherer
Event ID: 3036
Date: 6/30/2005
Time: 2:24:18 PM
User: N/A
Computer: TELECOM-EM-DB3
Description:
The crawl seed <MSSQL75://SQLServer/3a81b327> in project <SQLServer SQL0003100005> cannot be accessed. Error: 800700e9 - No process is on the other end of the pipe. .
Event Type: Warning
Event Source: Microsoft Search
Event Category: Gatherer
Event ID: 3024
Date: 6/30/2005
Time: 2:24:18 PM
User: N/A
Computer: TELECOM-EM-DB3
Description:
The crawl for project <SQLServer SQL0003100005> could not be started, because no crawl seeds could be accessed. Fix the errors and try the crawl again.
Event Type: Information
Event Source: Microsoft Search
Event Category: Gatherer
Event ID: 3018
Date: 6/30/2005
Time: 2:24:18 PM
User: N/A
Computer: TELECOM-EM-DB3
Description:
The end of crawl for project <SQLServer SQL0003100005> has been detected. The Gatherer successfully processed 0 documents totaling 0K. It failed to filter 1 documents. 0 URLs could not be reached or were denied access.
Event Type: Information
Event Source: Microsoft Search
Event Category: Indexer
Event ID: 7045
Date: 6/30/2005
Time: 2:24:18 PM
User: N/A
Computer: TELECOM-EM-DB3
Description:
The catalog was not propagated, because no new files were detected for the project <SQLServer SQL0003100005>.
I hope this makes sense
Thanks
Helen
Helen
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July 6, 2005 at 3:30 am
Also please not that I am not able to connect from SQL server to any sharepoint url
thanks
Helen
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July 7, 2005 at 8:42 am
Hi,
I can also see this in error log
By checking the N:\MSSQL2000\MSSQL\LOG\ERRORLOG on the SQL we found the following entries:
2005-07-07 05:51:00.77 spid52 Starting up database 'STS_telecom-em-sps1_1731241258_10451'.
2005-07-07 05:51:00.84 spid52 Non-clustered index restored for STS_telecom-em-sps1_1731241258_10451.sysobjects.
2005-07-07 05:51:00.84 spid52 Non-clustered index restored for STS_telecom-em-sps1_1731241258_10451.sysobjects.
2005-07-07 05:51:00.85 spid52 index restored for STS_telecom-em-sps1_1731241258_10451.syscolumns.
2005-07-07 05:51:00.85 spid52 index restored for STS_telecom-em-sps1_1731241258_10451.systypes.
2005-07-07 05:51:00.85 spid52 index restored for STS_telecom-em-sps1_1731241258_10451.sysusers.
2005-07-07 05:51:00.85 spid52 index restored for STS_telecom-em-sps1_1731241258_10451.sysproperties.
2005-07-07 05:51:00.87 spid52 index restored for STS_telecom-em-sps1_1731241258_10451.sysfulltextcatalogs.
2005-07-07 05:51:00.87 spid52 index restored for STS_telecom-em-sps1_1731241258_10451.sysfilegroups.
2005-07-07 06:05:54.12 spid58 Starting up database 'STS_telecom-em-sps1_1800390479'.
2005-07-07 06:05:54.18 spid58 Non-clustered index restored for STS_telecom-em-sps1_1800390479.sysobjects.
2005-07-07 06:05:54.18 spid58 Non-clustered index restored for STS_telecom-em-sps1_1800390479.sysobjects.
Is this some thing normal
How do I check that Full-Text is installed correctly on a clustered server
Any help!!!
Helen
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July 7, 2005 at 9:05 am
The primary error is "800700e9 - No process is on the other end of the pipe.". This error is often caused by removing or altering the SQL Server login BUILTIN\Administrators and it most likely is the source of this problem for you. This most likely is the source of the failure for FT Populations as the MSSearch service needs this login to log into SQL Server and you can either add back this login with the original permissions (default master db, sysadmin privileges or see KB article:
263712 (Q263712) INF: How to Impede Windows NT Administrators from Administering a Clustered SQL Server at: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;EN-US;263712
If you cannot add back the SQL Server login BUILTIN\Administrators login, you can use the following SQL code as a substitute. Note, if you have login BUILTIN\Administrators created, you should remove it and then run the following sql code.
exec sp_grantlogin N'NT Authority\System'
exec sp_defaultdb N'NT Authority\System', N'master'
exec sp_defaultlanguage N'NT Authority\System','us_english'
exec sp_addsrvrolemember N'NT Authority\System', sysadmin
The basic issue is that the external "Microsoft Search" (MSSearch.exe) service requires either the login BUILTIN\Administrators with all default settings OR the above Authority\System settings to access SQL Server and therefore are necessary for SQL Server Full-text Search functionality.
Regards,
John
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