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  • We have a production server which is 2 node cluster. DR is proposed to have stand alone machine, with SRDF solution for SAN replication.

    I'm not sure how these 2 system tables will react if system databases is copied over to standalone machine

    sys.dm_io_cluster_shared_drives

    sys.dm_os_cluster_nodes

    Do you see any issues if SRDF copies system database from clustered to standalone machine?

    Please suggest.

    SK.

  • csuresh79 (1/12/2012)


    We have a production server which is 2 node cluster. DR is proposed to have stand alone machine, with SRDF solution for SAN replication.

    I'm not sure how these 2 system tables will react if system databases is copied over to standalone machine

    sys.dm_io_cluster_shared_drives

    sys.dm_os_cluster_nodes

    Do you see any issues if SRDF copies system database from clustered to standalone machine?

    Please suggest.

    SK.

    Here is my understanding about it...

    sys.dm_io_cluster_shared_drives and sys.dm_os_cluster_nodes are actually views (not tables) that should return nothing if running on a not clustered instance.

    http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms188930.aspx

    http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms187341.aspx

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  • Thanks.. Do you see any other issues in copying system databases from Clustered to Standalone.?

  • What about servername, instance name for your standalone server ?

    Are they equal to the original servername ?

    If not, you may have some issues with msdb (sqlagent), and master sysservers

    have a look at http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms190190.aspx

    how about external usage of things from within your sqlinstance on the local box ?

    if you need to grant windows auth on folders, you'll need to do that too if these folders do not reside on the luns to be migrated.

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  • csuresh79 (1/12/2012)


    Thanks.. Do you see any other issues in copying system databases from Clustered to Standalone.?

    Well... I do not know.

    I been told it works fine between two standalone instance where everything including Master database gets replicated.

    May be is not a bad idea to ask/involve EMC or even Microsoft.

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    Disclaimer: Advice is provided to the best of my knowledge but no implicit or explicit warranties are provided. Since the advisor explicitly encourages testing any and all suggestions on a test non-production environment advisor should not held liable or responsible for any actions taken based on the given advice.
  • csuresh79 (1/12/2012)


    Thanks.. Do you see any other issues in copying system databases from Clustered to Standalone.?

    Copying system databases from any server to another will always lead to some issues, and SQL2005 is the worst for this.

    the local ids created by SQL server on install will all be orphaned

    linked server will not work

    encryption would fail

    maintenance plans will not work - best to avoid these in this scenario

    SSIs packages will not work unless configured to use external connection strings (an XML file for instance)

    always a chance SQLagent jobs will not work if any server hardcoding involved.

    You will need to amend sysservers

    I have a feeling there are more but I cannot think of them right now.

    Personally, unless you have the luxury of boot from SAN, I would not copy system databases but script out objects required and treat SAN replication like log shipping or database mirroring, replicating only the drives supporting the user databases and backups.

    As you have SAN replication, if you have windows 2008, have you considered geo-clustering?

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