July 25, 2009 at 1:09 pm
Comments posted to this topic are about the item Does Maturity Make a DBA?
Brad M. McGehee
DBA
July 25, 2009 at 5:29 pm
Brad,
What baloney! It must be a slow news day!
July 25, 2009 at 5:53 pm
Brad:
That sounds pretty right on, though I didn't take the job for any of those reasons. I think I may exhibit some of those of traits, though. Perhaps the importance the job demands a level of conservatism that others don't. Can a cowboy remain a DBA?
BD
July 25, 2009 at 8:27 pm
Brad,
I suspect that you are a conservative, stable, dependable, and reliable, family-oriented, hard-working, community-minded person of faith and see those same characteristics in other whom you respect.
Doug
July 26, 2009 at 3:25 am
I suspect you're going to get a lot of hate mail for this one Brad.... 😉
Gail Shaw
Microsoft Certified Master: SQL Server, MVP, M.Sc (Comp Sci)
SQL In The Wild: Discussions on DB performance with occasional diversions into recoverability
July 26, 2009 at 8:28 am
Generally, I would not care if my neighbor was one of the "people of faith" or not. Nor would I care if my neighbor's political views or non-political ways of life (conservative or liberal) were what I wanted them to be.
Welcome to the USA... the land of the free- which includes, free practice of religion OR NO religion, politics, life!
Baloney! You should have just called this article... Does my maturity (described below) make me a good DBA?
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July 26, 2009 at 8:33 am
I would agree with all except the last one. I don't think DBA's are more religious than anyone else. Probably they are more like a typical scientist who is skeptical of religion in general, so I would say they are less religious.
Many people who work in technical jobs have these traits in general. These are not sexy jobs. Most DBA jobs are "feed your family" type of work by people who really enjoy solving difficult problems and don't want to be road warriors. I know I like being with my family every night, although I know management and sales work pays much better, I don't want to do the travel.
July 26, 2009 at 11:00 am
On matters of faith....and the rest
Brad, interesting observations. You pretty well pegged me...
paul
July 26, 2009 at 11:38 am
Hard working and stable are the only two from Brad's list that I see in common with good DBA's.
As long as it's doesn't effect your performance, legal status or health, I don't care what you do in your personal life. I've spent many hundreds of hours covering for people who let their family, beliefs and community activities impact their attendance and performance to a greater degree than it should.
July 26, 2009 at 12:44 pm
mosl31 (7/26/2009)
I would agree with all except the last one. I don't think DBA's are more religious than anyone else. Probably they are more like a typical scientist who is skeptical of religion in general, so I would say they are less religious.Many people who work in technical jobs have these traits in general. These are not sexy jobs. Most DBA jobs are "feed your family" type of work by people who really enjoy solving difficult problems and don't want to be road warriors. I know I like being with my family every night, although I know management and sales work pays much better, I don't want to do the travel.
Please don't confuse Faith with Religion. They ARE NOT the same. Faith is believe in something that can not be seen, measured, or defined as in my faith in God. Religion is a doctrine such as Catholism, or Islam, Buddishism, etc.
July 26, 2009 at 2:31 pm
In my case actually being a DBA is what made me mature ! I suddenly found out that my skills have a huge demand in the market and I could build a strong career in something that I used to think was not as marketable as say a Java Programmer.. and I suddenly became a hard-working machine.
I have another hypothesis that might apply to Brad's : being a DBA I want everything organized in life according to E-R models, I want scheduled maintenance, I want performance tuning, I want upgrades and new functionality !
I am not conservative in any sense of the word and am rather agnostic so I don't fit the bill but being a DBA definitely made me more stable and hard-working !
BTW Brad, if you're reading this your books rock..
Gotham
July 26, 2009 at 2:42 pm
I fit the description Brad wrote. That's definitely encouraging for me that I'm on the right track, and that I'll be a perfect fit as a DBA. Just need some more on the job experience for the resume.
July 26, 2009 at 2:55 pm
Please keep in mind what I said in the editorial, "While there are exceptions, most of the DBAs *I* have met seem to fit into one or more of the following categories." Notice the emphasis on "one or more". Of course not every DBA I have met has all these qualities. I was just listing out those common qualities that I happened to have noticed, and these qualities seemed to stand out.
Brad M. McGehee
DBA
July 26, 2009 at 3:10 pm
So how about a DBA who does not possess those qualities and does not qualify the criteria you have laid out? What's wrong with them? If I'm reading your editorial correctly than it seems to indirectly state any DBA w/out those qualities or attributes wouldn't be as dedicated to his/her job, are they any less mature?
Please....correct me if I'm wrong. I would love to hear your opinion.
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July 26, 2009 at 3:14 pm
Slick84 (7/26/2009)
So how about a DBA who does not possess those qualities and does not qualify the criteria you have laid out? What's wrong with them? If I'm reading your editorial correctly than it seems to indirectly state any DBA w/out those qualities or attributes wouldn't be as dedicated to his/her job, are they any less mature?Please....correct me if I'm wrong. I would love to hear your opinion.
I think you are reading more into it than was meant. Recall, Brad said that those DBA's that he has meant have shown one or more of those characteristcs.
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