DETA recommendations..whats my next step?

  • Hello Everyone,

    I ran a server side trace this morning and used the same to see what the DETA recommends for improvement in performance. Interestingly it recommended to create the indexes that were already existing and a lot statistics (multiple statistics for the same table). Can anyone please suggest if I should follow the recommendations it suggested or how should I approach with the results.

    Also the estimated improvement I see is 70%. Which is really good.

    Thanks a ton in advance.

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  • Have you looked at the fragmentation of your indexes?

    Thanks,

    Jared

    Jared
    CE - Microsoft

  • Yes..They are heavily fragmented.

    With the below conditions

    avg_fragmentation_in_percent>=25

    index_type_desc<>'HEAP'

    page_count>25

    I see the below results in AvgPageFragmentation column:

    97.3684210526316

    97.4930362116992

    98.9464442493415

    32.6492537313433

    99.1079961771265

    98.8682650167569

    99.3258426966292

    99.0776871230933

    97.5475959987093

    99.4094488188976

    99.3220338983051

    98.6636971046771

    95.7746478873239

    98.8826815642458

    97.9591836734694

    96.3414634146341

    99.0182328190743

    99.3698630136986

    99.1575677007872

    98.8620199146515

    99.0721649484536

    99.0215264187867

    98.6111111111111

    99.2857142857143

    99.3220338983051

    97.2972972972973

    95.1965065502183

    98.8695540087651

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  • Do you have an index maintenance schedule in place?

    As of now, you should rebuild all your indexes.

  • Well there is your first problem 🙂 Can you rebuild your indexes at some time soon?

    Jared

    Jared
    CE - Microsoft

  • Yes...I can rebuild the indexes tonight...But the last time I rebuild the indexes (1 week back) the developers responded that there was no improvement in performance. Hence I went with the approach of identifying if any new indexes will improve the performance and generated a server side trace and used DETA for this.

    “If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.” -- John Quincy Adams

  • Well, besides your indexes being fragmented you should look at the queries that are running slow. Performance is many times due to bad queries. Also, are your developers coding the queries into their code or are they calling on stored procs? Also, read this post http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic553269-146-1.aspx

    Thanks,

    Jared

    Jared
    CE - Microsoft

  • Sapen (10/26/2011)


    I ran a server side trace this morning and used the same to see what the DETA recommends for improvement in performance. Interestingly it recommended to create the indexes that were already existing and a lot statistics (multiple statistics for the same table). Can anyone please suggest if I should follow the recommendations it suggested or how should I approach with the results.

    Never implement any DTA recommendations without thorough testing to see if they really do help performance.

    Gail Shaw
    Microsoft Certified Master: SQL Server, MVP, M.Sc (Comp Sci)
    SQL In The Wild: Discussions on DB performance with occasional diversions into recoverability

    We walk in the dark places no others will enter
    We stand on the bridge and no one may pass
  • Here is another good link for you to look at http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/Performance/71001/

    Thanks,

    Jared

    Jared
    CE - Microsoft

  • Technically I dont see any stored procs under the programmability-->stored procedures folder of this database.

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  • Sapen (10/26/2011)


    Technically I dont see any stored procs under the programmability-->stored procedures folder of this database.

    Ok, which has what to do with DTA and your indexes?

    Gail Shaw
    Microsoft Certified Master: SQL Server, MVP, M.Sc (Comp Sci)
    SQL In The Wild: Discussions on DB performance with occasional diversions into recoverability

    We walk in the dark places no others will enter
    We stand on the bridge and no one may pass
  • Gail,

    I dont see anything in the stored procedures folder and in the trace file I see sp_executesql followed by the queries and the trace was filtered with only a specific database.

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  • GilaMonster (10/26/2011)


    Sapen (10/26/2011)


    Technically I dont see any stored procs under the programmability-->stored procedures folder of this database.

    Ok, which has what to do with DTA and your indexes?

    Sorry, I asked if the devs were using SPs or embedding their queries in their code. Simply to see if it will be harder or easier for the OP to optimize the queries being placed against the db.

    Jared

    Jared
    CE - Microsoft

  • The other thing I noticed is the indexes are fragmented heavily back within less than a week. I understand there are lots of inserts and updates happening. But is that the only reason?

    Also, I am not shrinking the databases.

    “If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.” -- John Quincy Adams

  • Couple of things I would check, and I'm sure Gail will have a more concise reply 🙂

    1. Make sure that you are SURE no shrinking is happening. It can sometimes be from an old maintenance plan or even a third party maintenance application. No harm in double-checking.

    2. Get a good feeling as to how quickly your indexes become fragmented; i.e. within an hour, 4 hours, 12, 1day... You get the idea?

    3. If it takes a week for your indexes to become fragmented, how long does it take until 10-15%? Maybe, if it is plausible for your business, you can reorganize nightly or whatever fits your model.

    4. Look at those 2 links I posted earlier and work on optimizing queries and other pieces of the db. There are reasons for and against using stored procs (most of the against is from a dev's perspective), but work with them and maybe they will meet you halfway.

    Jared

    Jared
    CE - Microsoft

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