DBAs still know whats best for their DB, right?

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DBAs still know whats best for their DB, right?

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David.Poole SSC Guru Points: 76035 More actions · Answer 1

Yep,

They are an external (an theoretically neutral) department with no connection to the issues involved. Effectively they are for external verification that you raised an issue and it wasn't dealt with.

Theoretically your union could provide the same function but good union reps are hard to find, plus they tend to be antagonistic towards management.

A good HR department is supposed to advise on personnel issue, rights/benefits etc. They are not just for hiring, firing and looking pretty in the mean time, though they seem to manage the latter with ease.

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Frank Kalis SSC Guru Points: 111183 More actions · Answer 2

Theory and practice sometimes differ

>...looking pretty in the >mean time, though they seem to manage the latter with ease.

3 out of 4 isn't bad at all, I'd say

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PhoenixDBA Mr or Mrs. 500 Points: 578 More actions · Answer 3

Maybe this article can help bolster your argument as well.

http://www.databasejournal.com/features/mssql/print.php/3067071

Good luck,

Ross

Frank Kalis SSC Guru Points: 111183 More actions · Answer 4

Nah, getting seriuos again. We were lacking those lighter threads here lately

Has anybody mentioned using SQL Server Best Practice Analyzer yet? It can be downloaded from MS.

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noeld SSC Guru Points: 96590 More actions · Answer 5

Long way up in this thread I mention it

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Frank Kalis SSC Guru Points: 111183 More actions · Answer 6

Oops!

...but that analyzer is not bad at all. It doesn't hurt to reference it twice

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Jbabington SSC Eights! Points: 854 More actions · Answer 7

Why do I think I know this Development Manger? As for the responses to the thread uh...NICE ! (yea yea I have no meaning full comments)

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noeld SSC Guru Points: 96590 More actions · Answer 8

I am not saying is bad, is that is tough to find in such a HUGE thread

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Frank Kalis SSC Guru Points: 111183 More actions · Answer 9

Yes, this should quality for the longest in the last months.

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reverandsin Valued Member Points: 74 More actions · Answer 10

I have got to say I am excited about the response from the community (dare I say My Community) we have gotten here. I will continue to fight this fight I have my managers full support and his. So when this is all done I will post some of the arguments presented.

One more thing, they have already started to mention Yukon and .NET v2, saying that these allow for native SQL objects to be written there, trust me I will look into this, but thought again I would throw this out there as this will definately be one of his(dev manager) arguments.

Thanks all

Rev

Johan Bijnens SSC Guru Points: 135375 More actions · Answer 11

Another reason for the simple minded to implement whatever comes up , same like buying a bigger box if the current one can nolonger cope with what's being run on it.

But it's a ggrrreeaaatt tool

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Data Monkey Newbie Points: 1 More actions · Answer 12

Perhaps someone has developed a list of pros and cons to make a case for either side of this "inline vs. proc" argument...weight could be added to each bullet point and tallied to see which side's argument holds more water.

Just a thought...

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Frank Kalis SSC Guru Points: 111183 More actions · Answer 13

Now that you've mentioned Yukon and the implementation of the CLR, the only thing that comes to mind is:

Good bye to clean set-based approach, welcome row-by-row processing.

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