December 28, 2009 at 2:36 am
Cloud Computing - No need to have a DBA ?
How do you think ?
December 28, 2009 at 8:47 am
Yep, no need for a dba.
Need fewer developers too since you can use objects already developed in the cloud.
It's the end of IT!
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December 29, 2009 at 10:43 am
ROTF LMAO
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December 29, 2009 at 11:12 am
cfr "don't need to understand code in a object oniented programming language, just use it"
You'll still need to desing your objects, but in the cloud, you shouldn't need to worry about backup/recovery, failover, ...
Keep in mind : a could starts with fog !
You need to demystify your fog curtain.
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December 29, 2009 at 11:50 am
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cfr "don't need to understand code in a object oniented programming language, just use it"You'll still need to desing your objects, but in the cloud, you shouldn't need to worry about backup/recovery, failover, ...
Keep in mind : a could starts with fog !
You need to demystify your fog curtain.
or - make sure you clean your beer goggles....:) Sometimes the lack of clarity is simply localized right round you.....
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December 29, 2009 at 12:15 pm
onlo (12/28/2009)
Cloud Computing - No need to have a DBA ?How do you think ?
When the Cloud scale to one terabyte in two months for required RDBMS uses like HR and other normal internal uses. In the interim it is hype with limited implementation for most Fortune 1000 companies.
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May 11, 2011 at 2:13 am
Using SQL Azure, DBAs still need to manage schema creation, statistics management, index tuning, query optimization, and security administration (logins, users, roles, etc.).
Database administration in SQL Azure differs most from SQL Server in terms of physical administration. SQL Azure automatically replicates all data to provide high availability. SQL Azure also manages load balancing and, in case of a server failure, transparent fail-over to a healthy machine hosting one of the backup copies of your database.
To provide this level of physical administration, you cannot control the physical resources of SQL Azure. For example, you cannot specify the physical hard drive or file group where a database or index will reside. Because the computer file system is not accessible and all data is automatically replicated. The SQL Azure service still backs up all databases; however they are not accessible to regular users.
May 11, 2011 at 4:11 am
Still need of DBAs for a company which one offering Cloud Services but All organization will not adopt because there is a problem of data security and privacy,some restriction also there like speedy internet required for the transactions
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May 12, 2011 at 2:35 pm
No worries. The day that database administrators and developers are no longer needed; I'll just gracefully walk out the door and ride off into the sunset in my flying car.
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May 12, 2011 at 3:07 pm
yup no DBA is the way to go - funny I always seem to end up in contracts with companies who thought that way! On the plus side it enables me to charge more < grin >
btw.
Cloud is a marketing ploy - if you're an international company ( my current client is active in nearly 100 countries ) and our data centre is based in the UK - I figure that counts as cloud as it's not in any of our offices and we all access it through the internet. Oh yes and I'm a DBA !
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May 12, 2011 at 5:40 pm
Yep.. DBAs will be hired by the Cloud Providers like MS, Amazon, GoGrid....
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April 25, 2012 at 7:11 am
Hey all,
@onlo, great thread you opened, I think this is a good discussion point. I find myself surprised by the number of serious people who think that the concept of “cloud computing” eliminates the need of professional IT personnel. Instead of saving money on staff (and hardware/software), they end up spending more to fix their messed up DBs and environments, this especially crucial with successful startups that need to scale out their systems.
Although many of the DBA roles are now the responsibility of cloud providers that offer comprehensive solutions, you still need someone who knows what he’s doing at the end-user side, so as @eric M. Russel noted – no worries. Moreover, I think more is required of DBAs – they must have a good understanding of cloud computing, virtualization, database manipulation, etc. (i.e. be a well-rounded, knowledgeable DBA).
As I mentioned, there are all sorts of cloud providers that offer pretty comprehensive solutions. arun_sql mentioned Azure, for instance, which employees a team of DBAs - but it is well known that this does not really eliminate the need for a local DBA.
There are also companies that offer cloud middleware that does the “dirty” work like MySQL sharding, clustering/partitioning, provisioning, shard management, etc. Although this doesn’t eliminate the need for DBAs (yay for us!), because there is still a lot of complexity remaining to manage. In summary I think that the DBA’s role will simply change in the cloud environment to manage all the complexity that is going on behind the scenes. DBAs are not going anywhere.
(p.s., I just noticed this is a really old thread, but I already wrote this whole thing so I guess I’ll post it :blush:)
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April 25, 2012 at 7:27 am
Yeah, replacing the DBA with a piece of software, is like replacing a personal trainer with an exercise video.
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April 26, 2012 at 8:08 am
I wince every time I hear someone use the words "cloud computing".
This is marketing hype in line with the "pet rock."
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April 26, 2012 at 12:18 pm
eric.lyons (4/26/2012)
I wince every time I hear someone use the words "cloud computing".This is marketing hype in line with the "pet rock."
no cloud computing is marketing hype for something that as we move to a more mobile based society will just become computing. and to be honest, cloud computing has been around as long as web based email. just like "Big Data" we will still have data and computing but the marketing hype names will disappear.
on a side note the pet rock was marketing genius.
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