Can I prove queries were created in ORM from SQL ?

  • Getting a lot of raw, non-sproc queries run which is causing plan cache bloat, any ways to prove they are generated by an ORM?

  • By 'generated', do you mean 'written'?

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  • Well, I'd say the only real way you can suggest, you can't prove it, that they're probably ORM tools is the fact that, assuming they're using the ORM tool even remotely correctly, the queries will be coming through RPC_COMPLETED in Extended Events, not BATCH_COMPLETED. Combine this with the fact that you do not have a stored procedure that they're calling, and it's pretty strong evidence that it's some type of ORM tool. I've worked with three different ones. They all used prepared statements by default. They look, and act, a lot of stored procedures, but there's no code on the server. Still, you can code these manually, hence, you can't say definitively that it is an ORM tool.

    Also, it's possible, they list the tool in the connection string. You might see it there.

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  • I don't know about prove, but ORMs often have a telltale signature.

    I can easily recognize Entity Framework queries, which  alias tables as ExtentN, and alias parameters as @p__linq__N.  e.g.,

    SELECT TOP (1) 
    [Extent1].[StudentId] AS [StudentId],
    [Extent1].[Name] AS [Name]
    FROM [dbo].[Student] AS [Extent1]
    WHERE ([Extent1].[Name] = @p__linq__0) OR (([Extent1].[Name] IS NULL)
    AND (@p__linq__0 IS NULL))',N'@p__linq__0 nvarchar(4000)',@p__linq__0=N'Bill'

     

  • Also, if you're capturing lots of queries that declare the same variable for the same column all different sizes based on the data passed

    @Name(3) for 'Dog'

    @Name(8) for 'Elephant'

    Not only are you very likely seeing an ORM in use, you're also seeing it used incorrectly. Again, prove beyond a reasonable doubt... maybe, maybe not. Preponderance of evidence? Absolutely. And since this is a civil case, not a criminal one (yeah, yeah, ORMs), I think you can win the argument.

     

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