September 16, 2003 at 3:40 am
I had a damn-hard question on the (slightly obscure) OLAP language MDX on Friday 12th which on the day very few people got (which fits with how many people out there know it). Today loads of people have it right.
Do most people answer yesterdays question from the newsletter? It would explain the sudden surge is knowledge about MDX.
I suggest a big points bonus for answering on the day. Any comments?
Keith Henry
Keith Henry
September 16, 2003 at 4:35 am
I'll email Brian to look at this, he administers it and no idea how he scores. He's out of pocket for a couple days, look for a reply around the end of the week.
Andy
September 16, 2003 at 6:38 am
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I suggest a big points bonus for answering on the day. Any comments?
Would be harsh and would unfairly punish those that cannot answer on the same day because they're away on business.
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Do most people answer yesterdays question from the newsletter?
This has been covered in previous threads. The only way is to not to show the previous answer at all (also mentioned before with pros/cons). I'm in favour of not showing the previous answers in the newsletter, you can use the forum. If it forces you to answer the question to get the right answer than so be it, I've learnt more from my wrong answers that the correct ones.
Waiting in anticipation (and dread) for the flak
Far away is close at hand in the images of elsewhere.
Anon.
September 16, 2003 at 7:59 am
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Would be harsh and would unfairly punish those that cannot answer on the same day because they're away on business.
but don't http://www.sqlservercentral.com want to get people to visite every day? Isn't that part of the point?
Keith Henry
Keith Henry
September 16, 2003 at 12:24 pm
Should be an option: "I don't have a @#*&% clue about this, but I like points. So just mark it right for me tomorrow"
Data: Easy to spill, hard to clean up!
September 18, 2003 at 8:53 am
LOL, I even didn't know that it is possible to answer the question later than the day when it is published.
Why should it be harsh, David? If you can't answer the question in time, well, then you don't answer it... or receive less points. Do you think people would consider it discrimination to award more points on the day when QOD is published? OMG... I guess there are things I'll never understand, so I better won't try to :-). (Daddy, why Tom has two points and I only one? That's unfair )
I vote for David's proposal, at least not to show correct answer in the newsletter.
stubob: Yeah, that's the spirit!
September 18, 2003 at 9:07 am
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Why should it be harsh, David? If you can't answer the question in time, well, then you don't answer it... or receive less points.
I don't really mind, and getting a bonus for answering on the day seems OK. It all depends on your approach to the ethos of QOD. If you really want to implement a level playing field then why not have all questions score 1 point for a correct answer, you take to good with the bad on levels of difficulty. At least score comparision has some meaning.
Far away is close at hand in the images of elsewhere.
Anon.
September 18, 2003 at 9:08 am
An I having a deja vu event?
This discussion has been lead?!? before.
Frank
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September 18, 2003 at 9:11 am
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An I having a deja vu event?This discussion has been lead?!? before
Swings and roundabouts
Swings and roundabouts
deja vu
FOTFL
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Anon.
September 19, 2003 at 6:31 am
First, I wasn't aware there was a competition going on. So, i don't care about others cheating.
If some people find this important, I think it is best not to give the answer in the next days newsletter. So you have to answer the question to know the right answer. This seems to me the best solution.
But still, some will find a way to cheat (e.g. reading these posts). This resembles real life. There always people who cheat. Nothing new. I don't care.
September 19, 2003 at 6:54 am
I like to see the answer regardless of whether I answered or not. Some days I know that I don't have a clue as to what the correct answer is; so I don't answer. I look the next day and see what the answer was - that teaches me something new.
Seeing the answer the next day or whenever isn't going to make a difference in comparing yourself to someone else's score.
Why not? Well do you answer every question from your knowledge? Or do you look answers up? Or do you discuss them with co-workers? As long as everybody is not using the same resource for their answers, the score will never be 'equally fair'.
On some questions I use BOL and my six other SQL Server books to research an answer.
Question: How does my score compare to a person who NEVER uses BOL or any other book, but answers strictly from personal experience/knowledge?
Answer: It doesn't.
-SQLBill
September 19, 2003 at 7:05 am
All I was saying is that I had a rough idea on the day about how many people got the answer, and today 80% have got it by going back to look at the newsletter. I know the direct comparison is pointless, this is hardly test conditions, but at least I had an idea
Keith Henry
DBA/Developer/BI Manager
Keith Henry
September 19, 2003 at 7:13 am
Hi David,
quote:
FOTFL
I hail thee...............
What does FOTFL stand for?
Btw, not to get phillcart angry with me, I like the approach NOT to display the answer to yesterdays' question in the newsletter. It's totally OK for me, to think about an answer for some time.
...but, in addition to this there are always threads about QOD like:'
..I choose this, but I was wrong (right). The correct answer..'
so one doesn't necessarily has to look at the newsletter to cheat on the right answer, but simply follow the thread on the question.
hm....
Frank
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September 19, 2003 at 7:35 am
Frank,
Falling On The Floor Laughing (FOTFL or FOFL)
Acronymmmmmmmssssssssss Agh!
Far away is close at hand in the images of elsewhere.
Anon.
September 20, 2003 at 1:31 pm
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Falling On The Floor Laughing (FOTFL or FOFL)Acronymmmmmmmssssssssss Agh!
hope it didn't hurt
Frank
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Microsoft SQL Server MVP
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