April 15, 2015 at 5:34 am
I'm attempting to improve a vendor created query.
Sorry about the formatting and lack of test data - I've been looking at this longer than I care to admit.
Here is the original -
SELECT m.lID
FROM Message m
inner join Message_Cc mCC on m.lID=mCC.lMessage and mCC.lOfficeRecipient = 200321
INNER JOIN UserRole d on mCC.szRecipient=d.szRoleName
inner Join Map_UserAtOfficeToRole a2 on a2.lUserRole = d.lid AND d.nRecordStatus = 1
INNER JOIN Map_UserToOffice b ON a2.lMap_UserToOffice = b.lID AND b.lOffice=200321
INNER JOIN [User] c ON b.lUser = c.lID and c.szUsername='rogerb'
where m.lID not in (SELECT lMessage
FROM Message_CC_Role_Exception a
WHERE a.OfficeRecipient = 200321
AND a.Recipient = 'rogerb')
(If I run the query without the entire not in statement, I get 648 rows. If I include it I get 3 rows.)
My edit -
SELECT m.lID FROM Message m
inner join Message_Cc mCC ON m.lID = mCC.lMessage
INNER JOIN UserRole d ON mCC.szRecipient = d.szRoleName
inner Join Map_UserAtOfficeToRole a2 ON a2.lUserRole = d.lid
INNER JOIN Map_UserToOffice b ON a2.lMap_UserToOffice = b.lID
INNER JOIN [User] c ON b.lUser = c.lID
LEFT OUTER JOIN Message_CC_Role_Exception exc ON exc.lMessage = m.lid
where mCC.lOfficeRecipient = 200321
AND d.nRecordStatus = 1
AND b.lOffice=200321
and c.szUsername='rogerb'
and exc.lMessage is null
If I run this without the LEFT OUTER JOIN and the is null statement I get 648 rows. But If I include it I get 0 rows. I can't understand why I get 0 rows with the outer join.
Any help is greatly appreciated!
April 15, 2015 at 5:56 am
I think you should be left joining on all the conditions in the subquery.
Try this and see if it is any different.
SELECTm.lID
FROMMessage m
INNER JOIN Message_Cc mCC ON m.lID = mCC.lMessage
AND mCC.lOfficeRecipient = 200321
INNER JOIN UserRole d ON mCC.szRecipient = d.szRoleName
INNER JOIN Map_UserAtOfficeToRole a2 ON a2.lUserRole = d.lid
ANDd.nRecordStatus = 1
INNER JOIN Map_UserToOffice b ON a2.lMap_UserToOffice = b.lID
AND b.lOffice = 200321
INNER JOIN [User] c ON b.lUser = c.lID
AND c.szUsername = 'rogerb'
left join Message_CC_Role_Exception a on a.lMessage = m.lID
AND a.OfficeRecipient = 200321
ANDa.Recipient = 'rogerb'
WHEREa.lMessage is null
April 15, 2015 at 6:00 am
NOT EXISTS would possibly help:
select m.lID
from Message m
join Message_Cc mCC on m.lID = mCC.lMessage
and mCC.lOfficeRecipient = 200321
join UserRole d on mCC.szRecipient = d.szRoleName
join Map_UserAtOfficeToRole a2 on a2.lUserRole = d.lid
and d.nRecordStatus = 1
join Map_UserToOffice b on a2.lMap_UserToOffice = b.lID
and b.lOffice = 200321
join [User] c on b.lUser = c.lID
and c.szUsername = 'rogerb'
where not exists ( select 1
from Message_CC_Role_Exception a
where a.OfficeRecipient = 200321
and a.Recipient = 'rogerb'
and a.lMessage = m.lID )
The absence of evidence is not evidence of absence
- Martin Rees
The absence of consumable DDL, sample data and desired results is, however, evidence of the absence of my response
- Phil Parkin
April 15, 2015 at 6:01 am
As an aside, you will find that your SQL becomes more readable if you use meaningful aliases.
The absence of evidence is not evidence of absence
- Martin Rees
The absence of consumable DDL, sample data and desired results is, however, evidence of the absence of my response
- Phil Parkin
April 15, 2015 at 6:11 am
If you're trying to improve performance, these may be of interest
http://sqlinthewild.co.za/index.php/2010/02/18/not-exists-vs-not-in/
http://sqlinthewild.co.za/index.php/2010/03/23/left-outer-join-vs-not-exists/
Gail Shaw
Microsoft Certified Master: SQL Server, MVP, M.Sc (Comp Sci)
SQL In The Wild: Discussions on DB performance with occasional diversions into recoverability
April 15, 2015 at 6:47 am
Thanks for all the replies.
I tried Phils suggestion of the not exists with the select 1 and I get 0 rows returned.
I'm expecting 2 rows.
I also tried MadAdmins edits and while it certainly is much cleaner to me and makes perfect sense there is not improvement in performance. I guess my thinking was that I expected this query to run faster. At the end of the day it tries to return rows from 650 or so, that are not in 10000 (the subquery returns 10017 rows and the initial query returns 648).
Returning the 648 rows is very fast and returning the 10017 rows is very fast but restricting the list of one not in the other seems to be the cost.
SQL Server Execution Times:
CPU time = 1172 ms, elapsed time = 1198 ms.
April 15, 2015 at 7:07 am
jackimo (4/15/2015)
Thanks for all the replies.I tried Phils suggestion of the not exists with the select 1 and I get 0 rows returned.
I'm expecting 2 rows.
I also tried MadAdmins edits and while it certainly is much cleaner to me and makes perfect sense there is not improvement in performance. I guess my thinking was that I expected this query to run faster. At the end of the day it tries to return rows from 650 or so, that are not in 10000 (the subquery returns 10017 rows and the initial query returns 648).
Returning the 648 rows is very fast and returning the 10017 rows is very fast but restricting the list of one not in the other seems to be the cost.
SQL Server Execution Times:
CPU time = 1172 ms, elapsed time = 1198 ms.
You could try attaching the actual execution plan if you'd like to dig deeper.
The absence of evidence is not evidence of absence
- Martin Rees
The absence of consumable DDL, sample data and desired results is, however, evidence of the absence of my response
- Phil Parkin
April 15, 2015 at 7:13 am
Here are the two execution plans - one for the left outer join and one for the not exists.
Thanks again for all your help!
April 15, 2015 at 7:19 am
jackimo (4/15/2015)
Here are the two execution plans - one for the left outer join and one for the not exists.Thanks again for all your help!
Both of the plans look fairly clean to me, though the actual rows vs estimated rows is heavily wrong in a few places, suggesting that your statistics may be stale.
The absence of evidence is not evidence of absence
- Martin Rees
The absence of consumable DDL, sample data and desired results is, however, evidence of the absence of my response
- Phil Parkin
April 15, 2015 at 8:00 am
Query tuning really isn't my forte, but the interesting thing is that I can break this query down into 3 steps (1 first small select, 2nd larger select and then the outer join)
First select (~650 rows)
SQL Server Execution Times:
CPU time = 15 ms, elapsed time = 10 ms.
Second select (~10000 rows)
SQL Server Execution Times:
CPU time = 15 ms, elapsed time = 12 ms.
Left Outer Join (using tables that I inserted the results of the two select statements)
SQL Server Execution Times:
CPU time = 0 ms, elapsed time = 8 ms.
But if I run the original query I end up with;
SQL Server Execution Times:
CPU time = 1281 ms, elapsed time = 1272 ms.
Thinking out loud - should I break the query up using temp tables?
I you have any other thoughts please let me know.
Thanks!
April 16, 2015 at 7:18 am
Another interesting bit is that if I use the left outer join with the query hint - OPTION (HASH JOIN), the query runs in about 1/3 the time.
April 16, 2015 at 7:37 am
jackimo (4/15/2015)
Query tuning really isn't my forte, but the interesting thing is that I can break this query down into 3 steps (1 first small select, 2nd larger select and then the outer join)First select (~650 rows)
SQL Server Execution Times:
CPU time = 15 ms, elapsed time = 10 ms.
Second select (~10000 rows)
SQL Server Execution Times:
CPU time = 15 ms, elapsed time = 12 ms.
Left Outer Join (using tables that I inserted the results of the two select statements)
SQL Server Execution Times:
CPU time = 0 ms, elapsed time = 8 ms.
But if I run the original query I end up with;
SQL Server Execution Times:
CPU time = 1281 ms, elapsed time = 1272 ms.
Thinking out loud - should I break the query up using temp tables?
I you have any other thoughts please let me know.
Thanks!
If you get it to run faster, I would, but then again I do things different that most of the people here. Did you try creating this query using CTE?
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April 16, 2015 at 9:29 am
jackimo (4/16/2015)
Another interesting bit is that if I use the left outer join with the query hint - OPTION (HASH JOIN), the query runs in about 1/3 the time.
Which makes it sound like the optimiser is getting the cardinality wrong. Are your statistics up to date?
Gail Shaw
Microsoft Certified Master: SQL Server, MVP, M.Sc (Comp Sci)
SQL In The Wild: Discussions on DB performance with occasional diversions into recoverability
April 16, 2015 at 10:11 am
I tried it with the left outer join as previously suggested.
I tried it with CTEs the two selects then the join.
I tried it with table variable the two selects then the join.
then I tried it with temp tables (two temp tables then the join) and boom, total execution goes way way down.
not sure what is going on here but I guess I should be happy with the improvement.
April 16, 2015 at 10:37 am
Can you answer Gail's question?
The absence of evidence is not evidence of absence
- Martin Rees
The absence of consumable DDL, sample data and desired results is, however, evidence of the absence of my response
- Phil Parkin
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