April 23, 2010 at 10:22 am
Here is an interesting read: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2010/04/indias-copyright-proposals-are-un-american-and-thats-bad.ars.
April 23, 2010 at 10:24 am
Alvin, Maybe, his only real degree was in technical writting from a school down your way in Nashville. I'm a terrible writer, he was able to take my ideas, my rough written work and make it his own then present it as his own to a group at a trade show conference. I don't think he gave any time for Q/A because he wouldn't of been able to answer basic questions on what he spoke about. Any answers he would of given would of been like a politician.
To be clear this was not anything to do with SQL server. This was in an area that I was considered an industry expert in while I was becomming a DBA.
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April 23, 2010 at 10:29 am
Alvin Ramard (4/23/2010)
Trey Staker (4/23/2010)
I don't think they would... because they didn't write the article, and they don't really know what's in it, and they don't know if it even pertains to the problem. They probably don't even know what to do about someone's problem.Unless they're just all about blowing smoke, then they would have an answer like that for everything.
I think they would point to the article but not understand what they were pointing to. I had a boss like this a few years back. He was a habitual liar. He was really good at "story telling". He was a great presenter and has presented at a lot of CIO/CTO type of conferences. He knows buzz words and can be very motivational. He also He's fooled a lot of people and is on the board of several corporations. As a CIO/CTO He normally only stays at a company for 9 to 18 months before he's completely found out and moves on. As a board member they never get rid of him. Because he's had some prestigious appointments, written some artices (which were probably written by people working for him, I know I wrote one.), Made some great presentations, and because he's a unique character he's made some pretty strong connections. Truth be told, people that have worked for him can attest, while you're working for hiim you always wonder when people in white jackets will come to take him away.
Hey Trey. I think I know that guy. :-D[/quote]
I worked for a guy like that. We were in the process of hiring a CIO and the family (billionaires, all) really liked this guy so they promoted him. His prior job in the company, director of accounting. Whenever an issue arose, he'd stand right behind me as I am trying to debug - drove me up the flippin wall. The guy coduldn't read code and had no clue what I was doing (he was so not technical!). Maybe he felt he was lending moral support? One good thing was he was always very appreciative - read decent salary increases - when we resolved an issue as "his team" pulled it off again and he was the star!
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April 23, 2010 at 10:56 am
... and things get even more interesting. I just got an e-mail from a guy at an organization called the "Network Professional Organization". Apparently they caught wind of the situation and are worried because they were about to give some kind of award to the site. I'm guessing that's not going to happen at this point.
I have to say, I love it when karma repeatedly slaps these guys in the face. And it's even better when I've been able to give it a little push in the right direction 😀
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April 23, 2010 at 11:31 am
tosscrosby (4/23/2010)
Hey Trey. I think I know that guy. 😀
I worked for a guy like that. We were in the process of hiring a CIO and the family (billionaires, all) really liked this guy so they promoted him. His prior job in the company, director of accounting. Whenever an issue arose, he'd stand right behind me as I am trying to debug - drove me up the flippin wall. The guy coduldn't read code and had no clue what I was doing (he wasn't so not technical!). Maybe he felt he was lending moral support? One good thing was he was always very appreciative - read decent salary increases - when we resolved an issue as "his team" pulled it off again and he was the star!
As weird as this may sound, he wasn't my worst boss. I learned to tolerate him and he did have a few redeeming qualities, mostly that he was entertaining. He normally didn't get in the way of the people under him from doing their jobs because it made him look good. He lasted with us about 18 months and moved on.
The worst boss I had, had the same attribute you mentioned, he would stand behind me and question everything, debug everything without a clue to what he was really doing, and want it done his way which btw was always prone to failure. I am known for getting along with just about anyone but I did have to transition from that job to a new one partly because of this boss and partly because I had been at that particular company for too long.
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April 23, 2010 at 11:53 am
Are the posted questions getting worse? Someone just asked how to install SQL Server on Linux, so judge for yourself.
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April 23, 2010 at 12:03 pm
Alvin Ramard (4/23/2010)
Are the posted questions getting worse? Someone just asked how to install SQL Server on Linux, so judge for yourself.
What's link to that thread?
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April 23, 2010 at 12:12 pm
The Indian copyright law sounds better to me, though not if it requires local software. DRM bypass for personal use, or fair use, I'm OK with.
That's a different story than re-using someone else's work and passing it off as your own. It's one thing to pirate stuff for profit. I don't agree with it, but I can see the reasons. What I can't understand is passing the work off as your own. Or it being accepted as the thing to do.
Some days I feel like an old man.
April 23, 2010 at 12:48 pm
Steve Jones - Editor (4/23/2010)
The Indian copyright law sounds better to me, though not if it requires local software. DRM bypass for personal use, or fair use, I'm OK with.That's a different story than re-using someone else's work and passing it off as your own. It's one thing to pirate stuff for profit. I don't agree with it, but I can see the reasons. What I can't understand is passing the work off as your own. Or it being accepted as the thing to do.
Some days I feel like an old man.
I agree it's different than re-using someone else's work. The tag line from the email that pointed to article made it seem much different. I also agree that the Indian copyright law sounds better, with the exception of the local software requirement (but look here at the US, we have the buy American rules).
April 23, 2010 at 12:49 pm
This OP "really appreciates" help
April 23, 2010 at 12:55 pm
Steve Jones - Editor (4/23/2010)
The Indian copyright law sounds better to me, though not if it requires local software. DRM bypass for personal use, or fair use, I'm OK with.That's a different story than re-using someone else's work and passing it off as your own. It's one thing to pirate stuff for profit. I don't agree with it, but I can see the reasons. What I can't understand is passing the work off as your own. Or it being accepted as the thing to do.
I kind of agree with that. The concept of "fair use" took a real hammering in teh US under DMCA, and everal European goverments have been trying hard to emulate that, despite the best efforts of some other governments and of the European commission to ensure that fair use remains, so I see it as good that the Indians are not falling into that trap. The media companies are all pushing this "graduated response" nonsense but it's very clear that they want the response be applied on their word, without any examination of the evidence, and unfortunately they are making gains in that direction in some European countries, although not yet in the US or in India.
Some days I feel like an old man.
That happens less often as your kids get older (after they reach a certain threshold age; before then it happens more as they get older).
Tom
April 23, 2010 at 1:02 pm
lmu92 (4/23/2010)
This OP "really appreciates" help
I looked at the thread Lutz, and to me it looks as if it's not lack of appreciatiuon it's standard American misuse of language, just like most Americans saying "I could care less" when they actually mean "I could not care less" - which even confuses some other Americans.
Tom
April 23, 2010 at 1:24 pm
Roy Ernest (4/23/2010)
Paul White NZ (4/22/2010)
Adam Machanic (4/22/2010)
I'm convinced that it's a cultural thing. Apparently in Indian culture it's okay to copy someone else's work.I have heard this before too. I don't mind people using my stuff - but it is nice to be asked, and I do prefer it if they leave my name on it somewhere 🙂
Blatantly passing someone else's work as your own is very uncool.
These Morons give us rest of the decent Indians a bad name... Damn...!!!
I judge by your response that it's really not a culture thing where it's "ok" to plagiarize. Don't feel too bad, Roy. There are jerks, theives, and moroffs in every walk of life.
--Jeff Moden
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April 23, 2010 at 1:27 pm
Tom.Thomson (4/23/2010)
lmu92 (4/23/2010)
This OP "really appreciates" helpI looked at the thread Lutz, and to me it looks as if it's not lack of appreciatiuon it's standard American misuse of language, just like most Americans saying "I could care less" when they actually mean "I could not care less" - which even confuses some other Americans.
As an ESL I'm by far not used to American English to that degree but I never heard that phrase being used in the meaning you implied - on the other side, I've heared "I could care less" quite often... Would some of you EFL's please enlighten me?
When I put that phrase in context with the thread in question it makes sense to some degree: there is no coded answer to the question yet. (I don't even know what a coded answer would look like based on the question... 😉 )
Well, but there are more important things going on right now then this possible language barrier..
Speaking of it: I'm really impressed how fast the "internet authorities" (if such term even exists) react once they're informed about massive plagiarism. Amazing! It was just a matter of a few hours...
April 23, 2010 at 1:48 pm
Jeff Moden (4/23/2010)
Roy Ernest (4/23/2010)
Paul White NZ (4/22/2010)
Adam Machanic (4/22/2010)
I'm convinced that it's a cultural thing. Apparently in Indian culture it's okay to copy someone else's work.I have heard this before too. I don't mind people using my stuff - but it is nice to be asked, and I do prefer it if they leave my name on it somewhere 🙂
Blatantly passing someone else's work as your own is very uncool.
These Morons give us rest of the decent Indians a bad name... Damn...!!!
I judge by your response that it's really not a culture thing where it's "ok" to plagiarize. Don't feel too bad, Roy. There are jerks, theives, and moroffs in every walk of life.
It is not a culture to borrow anything from anyone with out permission. The kids are taught to respect others and not to steal. But what can you do, there are always rotten eggs in all walks of life and everyone gets branded the same.
-Roy
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