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Paul White SSC Guru Points: 150467 More actions · Answer 1

Roy Ernest (3/8/2010)
I think DBAs are the most hated people in the IT industry....

I know. I can't stand them myself 😉

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Grant Fritchey (3/8/2010)
Every time I get these "Hey, let's build a database that doesn't have referential integrity/indexes/normalization/mirrors our objects/only stores unstructured data/etc, I honestly try to convince them that they don't need a database. It's so weird. "We want a DB that behaves just like a flat file." Then why don't you just use a flat file? "Oh, but we have to have a database" Why?
I have a bad reputation at work.

:laugh:

I can relate. If I had $1 for every time someone had said, "We just need something quick and dirty - you can do your flash database stuff later"...

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Gail Shaw SSC Guru Points: 1004504 More actions · Answer 3

Paul White (3/8/2010)
I can relate. If I had $1 for every time someone had said, "We just need something quick and dirty - you can do your flash database stuff later"...

I love it when people do that. Reasonably long-term work for me in cleaning up afterwards.

Gail Shaw
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GilaMonster (3/8/2010)
I love it when people do that. Reasonably long-term work for me in cleaning up afterwards.

True. Not necessarily fun work; but then who ever said work had to be fun? 🙂

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Gail Shaw SSC Guru Points: 1004504 More actions · Answer 5

I kinda enjoy fixing bad databases. It's very satisfying to take something that's working badly and get tremendous gains in performance from it or to re-engineer a process so that it doesn't take days of the admin's time to fix the mistakes and problems.

Of course, been a consultant I'm away from the 'we need to fix this but there's no time to fix this' mess that generally results.

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SQLRNNR SSC Guru Points: 281334 More actions · Answer 6

Roy Ernest (3/8/2010)
I think DBAs are the most hated people in the IT industry.... 🙂
But there are lots of developers who wants to do it right. There are only a handful that dont give a Da** about the Database and its performance.

I would flip your statement there. Few who do it right and lots who don't care about performance. Seen it far too many times.

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nigel. SSChampion Points: 11636 More actions · Answer 7

tosscrosby-60625 (3/8/2010)
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Greg Edwards-268690 (3/8/2010)
Try telling that to my boss!
Does that work?

Errr, no!

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Paul White (3/8/2010)
I can relate. If I had $1 for every time someone had said, "We just need something quick and dirty - you can do your flash database stuff later"...

I just had a database developer that reports to me tell me the same thing.

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Roy Ernest (3/8/2010)
I think DBAs are the most hated people in the IT industry....

+1 For Roy.

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GilaMonster (3/8/2010)
I kinda enjoy fixing bad databases. It's very satisfying to take something that's working badly and get tremendous gains in performance from it or to re-engineer a process so that it doesn't take days of the admin's time to fix the mistakes and problems.

That is a major reason why I am in the field. I really like fixing something and making it go faster. There is a lot of personal satisfaction in it.

Of course, been a consultant I'm away from the 'we need to fix this but there's no time to fix this' mess that generally results.

And this brings up the pain of being in the field - "We don't have time to do it correctly now and can fix it later." To which I always ask, if you don't have time to fix it now when it will only take x hours to fix, how do you expect to have time later when it will take y hours longer to fix it? And it is also a reason why I would love to get into a consulting gig.

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SQLRNNR SSC Guru Points: 281334 More actions · Answer 11

I just realized the true term for what the Thread should be called.

MCP (Master Control Program).

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SQLRNNR SSC Guru Points: 281334 More actions · Answer 12

Anybody here have an idea on this one?

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Alvin Ramard SSC-Forever Points: 41190 More actions · Answer 13

CirquedeSQLeil (3/8/2010)
I just realized the true term for what the Thread should be called.
MCP (Master Control Program).

When it comes to the thread, MCP could stand for: Multiple Crappy Postings.

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Grant Fritchey SSC Guru Points: 398890 More actions · Answer 14

I thought MCP was Main Coolant Pump.

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Gail Shaw SSC Guru Points: 1004504 More actions · Answer 15

CirquedeSQLeil (3/8/2010)
And it is also a reason why I would love to get into a consulting gig.

There are downsides. I've just spent 3 weeks writing documentation and reports (til midnight most nights). Not sure I even remember how to write a query anymore.

Gail Shaw
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