February 1, 2010 at 2:15 pm
Thank you for sharing your thoughts!!
@luke: no security related data. Otherwise I most probably would have voted for option b. Basically just address information. But his address is one of more than thousand...
It's not really an issue regarding the content of the information itself rather than "showing an absolute lack of knowledge" (if the vendor/consultant has to post all those information just to find somebody to figure out that his import job most probably fails because some company names contain an "&" in his xml structure then I don't know how else I'd qualify it...)
So I go for option a then (strong majority vote supporting my "inner voice") 🙂
Btw: My friend "just works" there (no mgmnt) and is not even in IT department.
Edit: Oh, assuming that thread would still be open I'd refuse to help the person who asked, of course... 😉
February 1, 2010 at 2:19 pm
February 1, 2010 at 2:32 pm
Seems like the data are part of a customer list(!!).
The effect on a single company is minor, I think.
But it seems to be a trust/loyality issue between each of the companies and the vendor they have in common.
I just hope those companies didn't outsource their (payroll) accounting... Then I'd be really scared...
I hope I can bring that message across to my friend and he can forward it to his IT folks. I guess I'm going to offer to talk to them directly if they want to...
February 1, 2010 at 2:44 pm
lmu92 (2/1/2010)
Seems like the data are part of a customer list(!!).The effect on a single company is minor, I think.
But it seems to be a trust/loyality issue between each of the companies and the vendor they have in common.
I just hope those companies didn't outsource their (payroll) accounting... Then I'd be really scared...
I hope I can bring that message across to my friend and he can forward it to his IT folks. I guess I'm going to offer to talk to them directly if they want to...
Let your friend know. Then your friend can make it official. No sense in not taking customer data serious. My opinion - that vendor should lose the contract at this point. By contract, they are acting as an extension of the company and must be held to the same regards in terms of client confidentiality.
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February 1, 2010 at 2:54 pm
Stumbled onto the thread the Lutz was talking about. Steve took care of the sample data.
February 1, 2010 at 3:00 pm
Lynn Pettis (2/1/2010)
Stumbled onto the thread the Lutz was talking about. Steve took care of the sample data.
Please note my statement from one of my previous posts 😉
Any correlation between this question and anything I've posted in this thread or in other threads today or in the past or what I'm going to post in the future here or somewhere else would be pure coincidence...
February 1, 2010 at 3:33 pm
lmu92 (2/1/2010)
Lynn Pettis (2/1/2010)
Stumbled onto the thread the Lutz was talking about. Steve took care of the sample data.Please note my statement from one of my previous posts 😉
Any correlation between this question and anything I've posted in this thread or in other threads today or in the past or what I'm going to post in the future here or somewhere else would be pure coincidence...
Okay. 😉
But I'm pretty sure about what I found. 😉
February 2, 2010 at 5:57 am
lmu92 (2/1/2010)
I'm struggling with a little ethical issue:Let's assume you find the contact information of a company a friend of yours is working for in some sample data posted on the net in a forum (let's say SSC) by someone who could be guessed to be a consultant working for a vendor.
What would you do (beside of taking care that information is removed from the forum)?
a) inform your friend what you've noticed unofficially (private mail, phone call)
b) inform your friend what you've noticed officially (office mail, fax)
c) do nothing, because it was a coincidence to find that information
d) do something else
Any correlation between this question and anything I've posted in this thread or in other threads today or in the past or what I'm going to post in the future here or somewhere else would be pure coincidence...
I'd notify them informally, unless there seems to be an actual legal issue in the situation. That gives them the choice as to how to handle it, or not.
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February 2, 2010 at 7:10 am
anyone want to chime in on this thread?
http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic856377-5-2.aspx?Update=1
Its become about people having to update statistics after doing a database backup\restore. Interested how many people do this and any insights as to why it might be necessary.
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February 2, 2010 at 7:45 am
I would go with A, notify my friend. I'd ask them to point it out to management, for a couple reasons. One is that if that data were copied from somewhere, hypothetically, they would have some liability having hired the consultant.
The second reason would be so that they understand that they might not be getting their $$s worth from the consultant. Maybe they are and the issue was subtle. Nothing wrong with asking for some help from the public, however you want to do it in a safe, professional manner.
Or maybe you're just smarter than their consultant :w00t:
February 2, 2010 at 8:30 am
We'll see if the OP responds there. I wonder if they'll go elsewhere.
A crazy requirement, to be sure.
February 2, 2010 at 8:45 am
Roy Ernest (2/2/2010)
This thread is going to get interesting. :hehe:
How new does someone have to be to not know substring functions and basic comparisons? Who's hiring these people anyway?
Oops, I forgot, this could be another homework question.
We're gonna have to start checking Id cards and resumes at the door.
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February 2, 2010 at 8:47 am
Alvin Ramard (2/2/2010)
Roy Ernest (2/2/2010)
This thread is going to get interesting. :hehe:How new does someone have to be to not know substring functions and basic comparisons? Who's hiring these people anyway?
Oops, I forgot, this could be another homework question.
We're gonna have to start checking Id cards and resumes at the door.
Nah! Put it in as a QOD, stand back, and watch the flame war :w00t:
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