December 21, 2009 at 4:36 am
Am I missing something with this thread?
http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic836986-146-1.aspx
Seems odd to ask on a forum for the reason that a drive is missing from a server.
Gail Shaw
Microsoft Certified Master: SQL Server, MVP, M.Sc (Comp Sci)
SQL In The Wild: Discussions on DB performance with occasional diversions into recoverability
December 21, 2009 at 5:58 am
GilaMonster (12/21/2009)
Am I missing something with this thread?http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic836986-146-1.aspx
Seems odd to ask on a forum for the reason that a drive is missing from a server.
You're not missing anything. The OP is, and I don't mean the drive.
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December 21, 2009 at 6:28 am
mike_walsh (12/20/2009)
I figured I would add my $0.02 since it is my blog post discussed above. Brent Ozar and Aaron Nelson discussed this on twitter the other day and I, obviously by my post, liked the answer. So their idea is to use the #sqlhelp hashtag for SQLQuestions on twitter. I have to say, it does work in certain situations. Perhaps with an urgent issue, perhaps with a link back to a post on a forum like SSC or one of the other sites like the forums, stack overflow, etc. I have seen it work with folks getting help with odd issues, critical issues or general questions. I myself have received help on twitter and I believe Jonathan Kehayias also blogged about some help he got via twitter.I don't think that twitter should (or even could) replace the insight given in a forum like this. Here you can deeper with the how and why and get multiple opinions all in thread style.
My add-on thought to the idea that Aaron and Brent came up with is to tweet questions from RSS feeds from forums like this and sites like StackOverflow/ServerFault/MSDN Forums/etc. Ideally there would be one place to go for help and we would all be there receiving and offering help. That's not the lay of the land and I think getting new questions into one feed that folks can subscribe to (if they want) and click on a link to a question that they have experience in is a service to the person asking the question.
I do agree with Steve's point that the chatter level can increase but that is why the twitter clients utilize groups/etc.
I think it's a fine idea. I've received help on Twitter as well. But the medium is serverely limited. There's only so much you can ask for or provide in 140 characters, despite links to file sharing or whatever. After a certain point, you need to go to stackoverflow, SSC, ask.ssc or whatever your position of distraction is.
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December 21, 2009 at 6:53 am
A Christmas Song by Tom Lehr (posted with no apology :-P)
Christmas time is here, by golly,
Disapproval would be folly.
Deck the halls with hunks of holly,
Fill the cup and don't say when.
Kill the turkeys, ducks and chickens,
Mix the punch, drag out the Dickens.
Even though the prospect sickens,
Brother, here we go again.
On Christmas Day you can't get sore,
Your fellow man you must adore.
There's time to rob him all the more
The other three hundred and sixty-four.
Relations, sparing no expense, I'll
Send some useless old utensil,
Or a matching pen and pencil.
('Just the thing I need, how nice!')
It doesn't matter how sincere it is,
Nor how heart felt the spirit,
Sentiment will not endear it,
What's important is the price.
Hark, the Herald Tribune sings,
Advertising wondrous things.
God rest ye merry merchants,
May ye make the Yuletide pay.
Angels we have heard on high,
Tell us to go out and buy!
So let the raucous sleighbells jingle,
Hail our dear old friend Kriss Kringle,
Driving his reindeer across the sky.
Don't stand underneath when they fly by.
-- Kit
December 21, 2009 at 6:54 am
Alvin Ramard (12/21/2009)
GilaMonster (12/21/2009)
Am I missing something with this thread?http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic836986-146-1.aspx
Seems odd to ask on a forum for the reason that a drive is missing from a server.
You're not missing anything. The OP is, and I don't mean the drive.
RotFL. That was almost a coffee-over-keyboard moment. Thanks.
Along the same lines...
http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic837059-146-1.aspx
Testing? What is this 'testing' that you speak of?
Gail Shaw
Microsoft Certified Master: SQL Server, MVP, M.Sc (Comp Sci)
SQL In The Wild: Discussions on DB performance with occasional diversions into recoverability
December 21, 2009 at 7:07 am
GilaMonster (12/21/2009)
Alvin Ramard (12/21/2009)
GilaMonster (12/21/2009)
Am I missing something with this thread?http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic836986-146-1.aspx
Seems odd to ask on a forum for the reason that a drive is missing from a server.
You're not missing anything. The OP is, and I don't mean the drive.
RotFL. That was almost a coffee-over-keyboard moment. Thanks.
Along the same lines...
http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic837059-146-1.aspx
Testing? What is this 'testing' that you speak of?
Yeah, that was a good one.
"The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood"
- Theodore Roosevelt
Author of:
SQL Server Execution Plans
SQL Server Query Performance Tuning
December 21, 2009 at 8:28 am
I'm assuming this is a language issue, but I'm not getting through. Anyone have any ideas?
"The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood"
- Theodore Roosevelt
Author of:
SQL Server Execution Plans
SQL Server Query Performance Tuning
December 21, 2009 at 8:43 am
I do not think it is a language issue. Seems like his manager told him to put monitoring on the newly installed server. But the OP has no clue what should be monitored. So he is just fishing to get something. 🙂
-Roy
December 21, 2009 at 8:54 am
Well, if he is fishing he is using the wrong bait. 😛
December 21, 2009 at 9:07 am
I added a reply. My guess is he was told to install SQL Server and set up monitoring, and like Gail's disk friend, is too afraid to ask for more details.
Reminds me of the Scrubs episode where JD says he'll do something for Dr. Cox, but then misses the details and is afraid to ask him to repeat it.
December 21, 2009 at 9:15 am
Grant Fritchey (12/21/2009)
I'm assuming this is a language issue, but I'm not getting through. Anyone have any ideas?
I suggested one of RedGate's products. It'll probably do what he needs.
Appears to be both a language issue and an "I don't really know what I'm asking for, just know that I need help" issue.
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December 21, 2009 at 9:23 am
I think these individuals who are asking the questions are probably intelligent. However, they just don't know the language to ask their questions correctly.
December 21, 2009 at 9:24 am
nate.holtrop (12/21/2009)
I think these individuals who are asking the questions are probably intelligent. However, they just don't know the language to ask their questions correctly.
Intelligence usually isn't the issue. Education is.
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December 21, 2009 at 9:27 am
GSquared (12/21/2009)
nate.holtrop (12/21/2009)
I think these individuals who are asking the questions are probably intelligent. However, they just don't know the language to ask their questions correctly.Intelligence usually isn't the issue. Education is.
You are correct.
December 21, 2009 at 10:06 am
GilaMonster (12/21/2009)
Alvin Ramard (12/21/2009)
GilaMonster (12/21/2009)
Am I missing something with this thread?http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic836986-146-1.aspx
Seems odd to ask on a forum for the reason that a drive is missing from a server.
You're not missing anything. The OP is, and I don't mean the drive.
RotFL. That was almost a coffee-over-keyboard moment. Thanks.
Along the same lines...
http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic837059-146-1.aspx
Testing? What is this 'testing' that you speak of?
Upon reading that thread, my immediate response was...
"Testing???? We don't need no stinkin' testing!!!!!!!"
edit: to fix spelling
-- Kit
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