December 4, 2009 at 7:08 am
Grant Fritchey (12/4/2009)
In general, I'd say that's a hint to blow the dust off the resume.
Unfortunately I agree with Grant here. It's never a good sign when all the leadership bails at once. On a selfish note, I hope you can still make it to speak at the Orlando User Group next Tuesday.:crazy:
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December 4, 2009 at 7:09 am
I hope it is not bad. Maybe the next bunch that takes over the helm will be way better than this bunch. Now is the time when you should not believe everything you hear. Rumor mill will be very active. Everyone will bring their conspiracy theory out..
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December 4, 2009 at 7:10 am
Grant Fritchey (12/4/2009)
In general, I'd say that's a hint to blow the dust off the resume.
Hey Grant, sorry I missed your recent trip over here - would have been a good opportunity to get some books autographed...
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December 4, 2009 at 7:21 am
GSquared (12/4/2009)
I found out late yesterday that the CEO, the President, the Chairman, and the CFO, of the company I work for, all resigned late Wednesday, without prior notice, and without any reason or explanation given.I'm still not sure whether this is bad news or good news.
On the potentially bad news side, most of the excutive structure just up and quit, and didn't even bother to say goodbye. That sounds bad. Makes me wonder what they know that nobody else in the building does.
On the potentially good news side, these guys have been essentially invisible as execs the whole time I've been here. They held a company-wide meeting in August about the importance of communication and about their determination to make the company into something amazing. Never heard from them before or since (so much for communication), and now they're gone without even saying why (so much for determination).
As I mentioned to one co-worker, "this would really shake my faith in this company, if I had any".
It's unlikely but not unknown for an employee to lose more than their job when a company goes t1ts-up - but it's surprisingly demoralising working for a company when you don't have a clue whether or not your desk will still be there the next day.
Time to move on.
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December 4, 2009 at 7:47 am
GSquared (12/4/2009)
I found out late yesterday that the CEO, the President, the Chairman, and the CFO, of the company I work for, all resigned late Wednesday, without prior notice, and without any reason or explanation given.I'm still not sure whether this is bad news or good news.
On the potentially bad news side, most of the excutive structure just up and quit, and didn't even bother to say goodbye. That sounds bad. Makes me wonder what they know that nobody else in the building does.
On the potentially good news side, these guys have been essentially invisible as execs the whole time I've been here. They held a company-wide meeting in August about the importance of communication and about their determination to make the company into something amazing. Never heard from them before or since (so much for communication), and now they're gone without even saying why (so much for determination).
As I mentioned to one co-worker, "this would really shake my faith in this company, if I had any".
Wow... deja-vu... sounds like the company I worked for more than 20 years ago. On the bright side, the company survives and is actually doing ok. On the not so bright side, at the time stuff like that started happening, they laid off almost 2000 of the 3500 people they had on payroll. That was back in 1984-86. Sometimes you have to clean the basement and sometimes it's better to just move. Hard to tell what your execs have chosen or if they simply got fired and no one is talking about it.
I also agree with Roy...
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December 4, 2009 at 7:54 am
Grant Fritchey (12/4/2009)
GSquared (12/4/2009)
I found out late yesterday that the CEO, the President, the Chairman, and the CFO, of the company I work for, all resigned late Wednesday, without prior notice, and without any reason or explanation given.I'm still not sure whether this is bad news or good news.
On the potentially bad news side, most of the excutive structure just up and quit, and didn't even bother to say goodbye. That sounds bad. Makes me wonder what they know that nobody else in the building does.
On the potentially good news side, these guys have been essentially invisible as execs the whole time I've been here. They held a company-wide meeting in August about the importance of communication and about their determination to make the company into something amazing. Never heard from them before or since (so much for communication), and now they're gone without even saying why (so much for determination).
As I mentioned to one co-worker, "this would really shake my faith in this company, if I had any".
In general, I'd say that's a hint to blow the dust off the resume.
If it had any dust on it ...
I've already contacted three different recruiters. They all say the real action will be January through March, which matches my analysis of the job market here.
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December 4, 2009 at 7:55 am
Jack Corbett (12/4/2009)
Grant Fritchey (12/4/2009)
In general, I'd say that's a hint to blow the dust off the resume.Unfortunately I agree with Grant here. It's never a good sign when all the leadership bails at once. On a selfish note, I hope you can still make it to speak at the Orlando User Group next Tuesday.:crazy:
Don't know yet on that. I'd work on arranging a backup plan, if you haven't already. I think I'll be able to be there, but it'll depend on how Monday and Tuesday go.
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December 4, 2009 at 7:58 am
Smells like sinking ship to me. Definitely fix up resume. Even it's not needed, good thing to do.
Reminds me of 1st place I worked. For 2 months upper management were having lots of closed-door meetings, rushing around, etc. 3rd month they retrenched 27% of the staff.
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December 4, 2009 at 7:58 am
Roy Ernest (12/4/2009)
I hope it is not bad. Maybe the next bunch that takes over the helm will be way better than this bunch. Now is the time when you should not believe everything you hear. Rumor mill will be very active. Everyone will bring their conspiracy theory out..
Rumor mill's so active it's overloaded. A company meeting late yesterday helped kill a few threads, but not even close to everything.
Also just found out, on official lines, that the people who resigned are still majority shareholders in the company, and can't pull out from that because of SEC regulations. So they left, but they didn't take their money with them. That resolves a whole swath of rumors all by itself.
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December 4, 2009 at 8:02 am
Chris Morris-439714 (12/4/2009)
It's unlikely but not unknown for an employee to lose more than their job when a company goes t1ts-up - but it's surprisingly demoralising working for a company when you don't have a clue whether or not your desk will still be there the next day.Time to move on.
Not sure what I'd lose other than the job. I have a few personal items at my desk, but nothing irreplaceable. I don't even have a 401(k) at this point, because I've been putting that money into clearing out debts instead. (Paying off credit cards that charge 29% makes more sense than investing in a 401(k) that may or may not pay 8 or 9%.)
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December 4, 2009 at 8:07 am
GilaMonster (12/4/2009)
Smells like sinking ship to me. Definitely fix up resume. Even it's not needed, good thing to do.Reminds me of 1st place I worked. For 2 months upper management were having lots of closed-door meetings, rushing around, etc. 3rd month they retrenched 27% of the staff.
First company I was a DBA for (far from my first job), one Friday the owners came around and told all the employees to clean out their desks, and said they'd call us if we needed to show up on Monday.
On Saturday, my last paycheck from them (from the prior Friday) was pulled back out of my bank account. (Was finally recompensed on that 4 months later.)
So, yeah, been-there-done-that, not interested in repeating the experience.
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December 4, 2009 at 8:11 am
GSquared (12/4/2009)
Jack Corbett (12/4/2009)
Grant Fritchey (12/4/2009)
In general, I'd say that's a hint to blow the dust off the resume.Unfortunately I agree with Grant here. It's never a good sign when all the leadership bails at once. On a selfish note, I hope you can still make it to speak at the Orlando User Group next Tuesday.:crazy:
Don't know yet on that. I'd work on arranging a backup plan, if you haven't already. I think I'll be able to be there, but it'll depend on how Monday and Tuesday go.
Oh, working on a backup plan, probably me or a panel discussion on the benefits of attending the PASS Summit as myself, Andy Warren, and Kendal Van Dyke all went to the Summit and should be there on Tuesday. Just want to know so I can send out an email with the change in speakers/subject. I know at least one person who is coming from a couple hours away because you are the scheduled speaker.
Check your email especially if you are looking for working and willing to work in the Orlando area. I was contacted this week about a Sr. DBA position.
Jack Corbett
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December 4, 2009 at 8:16 am
Brent Ozar was asking on Twitter about anyone in or willing to relocate to the San Fran area looking for a Senior SQL DBA position. Scaling and management experience required.
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December 4, 2009 at 8:23 am
GilaMonster (12/4/2009)
Brent Ozar was asking on Twitter about anyone in or willing to relocate to the San Fran area looking for a Senior SQL DBA position. Scaling and management experience required.
Definitely not looking to move back to California at this time. Not with what their economy is doing. But appreciate the heads-up on it.
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December 4, 2009 at 8:33 am
Gus - definitely not looking good. Like you said, might be good or bad news. Agree with all others to start looking.
Best of luck!
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