Are the posted questions getting worse?

  • Alvin Ramard (11/25/2009)


    Roy Ernest (11/25/2009)


    I sometimes feel that the thread rules us... We dont rule the thread anymore. It has evolved itself into a controlling being

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    What? The Thread is a Norman?

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  • Ok, I vote this as one of the more ... 'questionable' recommendations I've read here recently.

    As your log file is very huge, and it is required to Truncate the log file for proper utilization of disk space, you need to stop the Mirroring activity, truncate the transaction log, change the database type to Simple (only if this is allowed in your business case), take a full backup and then reconfigure the database Mirroring.

    Followed by

    Reconfiguring the Mirroring database of 200 MB is small task and can be done in 30min - 1 hour time. This does not require the principal database down even (no downtime required). You should convience the business owner

    Um. Yeah, well, ok....

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  • GilaMonster (11/25/2009)


    Ok, I vote this as one of the more ... 'questionable' recommendations I've read here recently.

    As your log file is very huge, and it is required to Truncate the log file for proper utilization of disk space, you need to stop the Mirroring activity, truncate the transaction log, change the database type to Simple (only if this is allowed in your business case), take a full backup and then reconfigure the database Mirroring.

    Followed by

    Reconfiguring the Mirroring database of 200 MB is small task and can be done in 30min - 1 hour time. This does not require the principal database down even (no downtime required). You should convience the business owner

    Um. Yeah, well, ok....

    I'll second that emotion Gail.

    :w00t:



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  • GilaMonster (11/25/2009)


    Ok, I vote this as one of the more ... 'questionable' recommendations I've read here recently.

    As your log file is very huge, and it is required to Truncate the log file for proper utilization of disk space, you need to stop the Mirroring activity, truncate the transaction log, change the database type to Simple (only if this is allowed in your business case), take a full backup and then reconfigure the database Mirroring.

    Followed by

    Reconfiguring the Mirroring database of 200 MB is small task and can be done in 30min - 1 hour time. This does not require the principal database down even (no downtime required). You should convience the business owner

    Um. Yeah, well, ok....

    Yeah, my jaw hit my chest when I saw that one too.

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  • I'll give the poster of the first item one point for saying: "(only if this is allowed in your business case)"



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  • GilaMonster (11/25/2009)


    Ok, I vote this as one of the more ... 'questionable' recommendations I've read here recently.

    As your log file is very huge, and it is required to Truncate the log file for proper utilization of disk space, you need to stop the Mirroring activity, truncate the transaction log, change the database type to Simple (only if this is allowed in your business case), take a full backup and then reconfigure the database Mirroring.

    Followed by

    Reconfiguring the Mirroring database of 200 MB is small task and can be done in 30min - 1 hour time. This does not require the principal database down even (no downtime required). You should convience the business owner

    Um. Yeah, well, ok....

    Yeah, I was very happy to see you and Grant jump in on that thread. I made a an attempt at reason, but I was being overwhelmed and didn't have the energy to fight the hordes.

  • GilaMonster (11/25/2009)


    Ok, I vote this as one of the more ... 'questionable' recommendations I've read here recently.

    As your log file is very huge, and it is required to Truncate the log file for proper utilization of disk space, you need to stop the Mirroring activity, truncate the transaction log, change the database type to Simple (only if this is allowed in your business case), take a full backup and then reconfigure the database Mirroring.

    Followed by

    Reconfiguring the Mirroring database of 200 MB is small task and can be done in 30min - 1 hour time. This does not require the principal database down even (no downtime required). You should convience the business owner

    Um. Yeah, well, ok....

    um bdm bdm bdm

    Interesting recommendation. Maybe the OP will try it, then will need somebody to help fix it:-)

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  • Alvin Ramard (11/25/2009)


    I'll give the poster of the first item one point for saying: "(only if this is allowed in your business case)"

    No points from me for that. That comment looks like it only applies to the 'switch to simple', by that point the mirroring's dropped and the log truncated. Switching to simple by that stage can't do any more damage than has already been done.

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  • GilaMonster (11/25/2009)


    Alvin Ramard (11/25/2009)


    I'll give the poster of the first item one point for saying: "(only if this is allowed in your business case)"

    No points from me for that. That comment looks like it only applies to the 'switch to simple', by that point the mirroring's dropped and the log truncated. Switching to simple by that stage can't do any more damage than has already been done.

    I agree that it applies to "switch to simple". The one point is only because this implies a "check before proceeding".



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  • Maybe y'all should give awards for worst suggestions. I'm sure the competition is tough.

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  • Bob Hovious 24601 (11/25/2009)


    Maybe y'all should give awards for worst suggestions. I'm sure the competition is tough.

    ........ and the winner is ... (drum roll) ... Oh, it looks like we have a 73 way tie for first place.

    :w00t:



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  • Alvin Ramard (11/25/2009)


    Bob Hovious 24601 (11/25/2009)


    Maybe y'all should give awards for worst suggestions. I'm sure the competition is tough.

    ........ and the winner is ... (drum roll) ... Oh, it looks like we have a 73 way tie for first place.

    :w00t:

    Sounds about right.

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  • Alvin Ramard (11/25/2009)


    Bob Hovious 24601 (11/25/2009)


    Maybe y'all should give awards for worst suggestions. I'm sure the competition is tough.

    ........ and the winner is ... (drum roll) ... Oh, it looks like we have a 73 way tie for first place.

    :w00t:

    Hey.... I did not give any suggestions... So it should be a 72 way tie for first place... 🙂

    -Roy

  • Is that a 73-way tie for first place on a daily basis?

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  • CirquedeSQLeil (11/25/2009)


    Is that a 73-way tie for first place on a daily basis?

    I can't say Jason. I only have ten fingers so these bigs numbers can be a problem every now and then.

    😉



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