November 24, 2009 at 8:51 am
Bob Hovious 24601 (11/24/2009)
I sent Barry a message through LinkedIn last week asking how he was doing. Never got a reply. I haven't seen any recent posts from him on any of the forums.
If anyone hears from him let us know.
I like the celtic knot bio-hazard symbol.
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November 24, 2009 at 9:00 am
Will do, Grant.
Glad you like the knot. I think it has its origins back in the days of the Black Plague.
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November 24, 2009 at 9:09 am
I just took the liberty of calling ProActive and asked directly how Barry was doing. Although they obviously couldn't share details, it appears that he is alive, but "under the weather." I asked them to relay the message that many of us here were concerned about him and hope he gets to feeling better.
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November 24, 2009 at 9:13 am
Thanks for taking the steps to check on Barry, Bob. Once again a sign of community not Forum.
Jack Corbett
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November 24, 2009 at 9:29 am
I have to agree with Jack, Bob. Thank you taking that initiative to check on Barry. It definitely sets SSC apart from the rest! This is the Best!
November 24, 2009 at 10:01 am
Definitely agree with the others - thanks Bob for taking that initiative.
Jason...AKA CirqueDeSQLeil
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November 24, 2009 at 10:07 am
Good work Bob.
hmmm, maybe we should appoint you as the Membership Director for our PASS Chapter.
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November 24, 2009 at 10:23 am
No thanks necessary. Steve was already following up by email. I was just impatient. 😉
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November 24, 2009 at 10:45 am
Bob Hovious 24601 (11/24/2009)
I just took the liberty of calling ProActive and asked directly how Barry was doing. Although they obviously couldn't share details, it appears that he is alive, but "under the weather." I asked them to relay the message that many of us here were concerned about him and hope he gets to feeling better.
Excellent Bob. Thanks so much for doing this.
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November 24, 2009 at 2:07 pm
November 24, 2009 at 2:13 pm
Chad Crawford (11/24/2009)
Alvin Ramard (11/24/2009)
Good work Bob.hmmm, maybe we should appoint you as the Membership Director for our PASS Chapter.
Maybe Chief People Officer? http://dilbert.com/fast/2009-11-21/[/url]
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Chad
Yeah, that would be a good position for Bob.
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November 24, 2009 at 2:37 pm
Its not just SqlServer central this happens with...
Just had to check my daughters homework (she 8) , she had to plan an 8 hour evening tv schedule adding the hours and minutes of the given programs. Unfortunately the programs listed totalled 7:35 :crazy:
November 24, 2009 at 2:44 pm
Dave Ballantyne (11/24/2009)
Its not just SqlServer central this happens with...Just had to check my daughters homework (she 8) , she had to plan an 8 hour evening tv schedule adding the hours and minutes of the given programs. Unfortunately the programs listed totalled 7:35 :crazy:
Did this include the commercials??
November 24, 2009 at 2:57 pm
November 24, 2009 at 4:01 pm
[highlight=#1]I don't see a way to delete this so I guess you can just ignore it -- my Newbie stripes are showing here. When I posted this I didn't realize I was posting to a thread with almost 950 pages of comments. I have no idea what directions the discussion has taken over that many messages and I'm certainly don't have time to read 950 pages to find out so my apologies for the interruption -- have a good day.[/highlight]
I suspect that at least part of the problem is general frustration with the quality of "self-help" solutions, at least on the web. At one time I could craft a reasonable query and stick it into Google and get several quality hits in a single page. These days, to find one decent hit it often takes running through several pages of links, many of which go to, by whatever route: the exact same article; amazon; ebay; or another search engine; (and perversely, the ones with the most promising previews on Google usually go to a page bearing a prominent 404). The signal to noise ratio has become rather outrageous.
Other forms of information have degraded as well. Microsoft Help files were always hard to search and often much too small, but years ago they were generally valuable nonetheless. These days, for consumer-level software they are usually impossible to search effectively, often missing anything but the most basic information, and tend to lead more to frustration than clarity. The professionional-level stuff has much better information but for basic learning, the endless maze of hyperlinks to paragraph-length sections with no apparent organizing factor makes utilization of the information a massive chore.
I suspect that many people have just given up -- instead they use a search-engine to find an appropriate forum and then they just go in and ask their question. That, of course, leads to the type of frustration exhibited here. And for those of us who generally favor looking up the answer, rather than asking the question, that leads to another form of frustration -- the fact that a Google search will often reveal (once one weeds through all the crap) a fair number of forums where someone is asking the exact question to which we are seeking an answer but when we follow the link to the forum we see that no one has ever responded to the question.
-- Les
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