Are the posted questions getting worse?

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Are the posted questions getting worse?

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Gail Shaw SSC Guru Points: 1004504 More actions · Answer 1

Grant Fritchey (11/23/2008)
Actually, pretty desperate, the deadlock chapter comes up in two weeks! You may see me attempting to answer a few of the deadlock posts as they come up.

If you need a hand, drop me a mail. I was dreaming in deadlock graphs a couple weeks back.

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Grant Fritchey SSC Guru Points: 398909 More actions · Answer 2

GilaMonster (11/23/2008)
Grant Fritchey (11/23/2008)
Actually, pretty desperate, the deadlock chapter comes up in two weeks! You may see me attempting to answer a few of the deadlock posts as they come up.
If you need a hand, drop me a mail. I was dreaming in deadlock graphs a couple weeks back.

Oooh... Unforced error on the play. I will take you up on that. You've been warned.

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Michael Earl-395764 SSC Guru Points: 53873 More actions · Answer 3

Michael Earl-395764

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November 24, 2008 at 5:26 am

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Ok, you all have way too much time on your hands.

Michael Earl-395764 SSC Guru Points: 53873 More actions · Answer 4

Ok, here we go again.

This is one of the best ones I have seen in awhile.

http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic607321-146-1.aspx

Jeff, I don't know if there is a way you could have responded with more distain, but it did make me laugh.

Jeff Moden SSC Guru Points: 1004407 More actions · Answer 5

It was very difficult to maintain any semblance of professionalism on that one. Some of these folks need to clean the pipe they're smoking. 😛

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Michael Earl-395764 SSC Guru Points: 53873 More actions · Answer 6

Michael Earl-395764

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November 24, 2008 at 6:13 am

#902405

Or at least share whatever it is the're smoking.

Jack Corbett SSC Guru Points: 184394 More actions · Answer 7

Michael Earl (11/24/2008)
Ok, here we go again.
This is one of the best ones I have seen in awhile.
http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic607321-146-1.aspx
Jeff, I don't know if there is a way you could have responded with more distain, but it did make me laugh.

Wow, that one is the best yet.

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Jeff Moden SSC Guru Points: 1004407 More actions · Answer 8

Or the worst, depending on how you look at it.

Is it me, or is it just the "language barrier"? Have these people no clue as to what a little etiquette is or do they just not have command enough of the English language to be able to sound otherwise?

--Jeff Moden

RBAR is pronounced "ree-bar" and is a "Modenism" for Row-By-Agonizing-Row.
First step towards the paradigm shift of writing Set Based code:
________Stop thinking about what you want to do to a ROW... think, instead, of what you want to do to a COLUMN.

Change is inevitable... Change for the better is not.

Helpful Links:
How to post code problems
How to Post Performance Problems
Create a Tally Function (fnTally)

Michael Earl-395764 SSC Guru Points: 53873 More actions · Answer 9

There are plenty of broken-english or "google translated" postings that have no hint of this type of entitlement.

It's the individual, not the language barrier.

dbajunior SSCrazy Points: 2307 More actions · Answer 10

Someone should keep a list, starting 1/1/09, of the bad questions that come in. At the end of the year, they can publish something similar to the Darwin Awards, consisting of the top 20 or so worst ones.

David Benoit SSC-Dedicated Points: 34562 More actions · Answer 11

Agreed, the questions are definitely getting worse, and that most recent one that Jeff responded to is right up there on the scale of BAD.

So, the question is what to do.?.? Typically when I see these I TRY to point them in a direction and then leave them alone to ask more questions. I do find that a lot of posters will answer their questions directly which ultimately is bad. Having trained a couple of DBA's in the past I found this to be the only way to think for themselves.

When I get the sense that someone has taken over DBA work for someone else under false pretenses (i.e. claiming to be something that they are not; and you can usually tell as they are supporting an environment that they could not have created with the skills that they evidence based on the question they are asking) then I will usually not answer them clearly but will force them to research. I don't believe that handholding is providing any benefit in that situation.

Being that I am weighing in on this later this may already be covered and I missed it so if this response is similar to another I apologize.

David

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Michael Earl-395764 SSC Guru Points: 53873 More actions · Answer 12

So now let's discuss those people that post without reading the entire thread...

Being that I am weighing in on this later this may already be covered and I missed it so if this response is similar to another I apologize.

Don't worry, this has turned into a "vent about annoying people" thread and you do not appear to be one of them.

Steve Jones - SSC Editor SSC Guru Points: 736479 More actions · Answer 13

Please feel free to nicely tell people you are not doing their work for them. Or ask them to post more information. Or skip over them.

This has become quite a rant, though I understand. A lot of the sentiments expressed are how I feel quite often.

Loner SSC-Insane Points: 21279 More actions · Answer 14

Just curious -

Can people ONLY post 'intelligent' question on this web site?

To me, there is no good or bad question, if you don't know the answer, it is better to ask the question than assume you know the answer just liked many people I work with or use to work with.

Maybe I am the one who ask 'stupid' question all the time.

Steve Jones - SSC Editor SSC Guru Points: 736479 More actions · Answer 15

It's not that the questions are bad in that they shouldn't be asked. It's that the posters don't take a few minutes to properly frame a question or do any research. Or that they've posted some test question hoping for a quick answer.

Questions of ignorance, not knowing something, are fine. It's the lack of effort or manners that annoy regular posters.