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ChrisM@Work SSC Guru Points: 186127 More actions · Answer 1

You can say that again 😀

^{“Write the query the simplest way. If through testing it becomes clear that the performance is inadequate, consider alternative query forms.” - Gail Shaw}

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Grant Fritchey SSC Guru Points: 398882 More actions · Answer 2

Ninja's_RGR'us (1/19/2009)
That's worth repiting Grant :w00t::D:hehe:.

What? Did the copy editors fall down on the job again. Steve, fire that mangy lot and get someone decent in here to protect us from own poor typing skills and pathetic grasp of the English language.

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Ninja's_RGR'us SSC Guru Points: 294069 More actions · Answer 3

That wouldn't have been so funny if you hadn't repeated it twice in a row :D:w00t::P.

Been guilty myself of a few typos over the years... so no harm done :).

Jack Corbett SSC Guru Points: 184394 More actions · Answer 4

Grant Fritchey (1/19/2009)
Ninja's_RGR'us (1/19/2009)
That's worth repiting Grant :w00t::D:hehe:.
What? Did the copy editors fall down on the job again. Steve, fire that mangy lot and get someone decent in here to protect us from own poor typing skills and pathetic grasp of the English language.

That's probably my favorite feature of the google toolbar, spell checking just like in Word.

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Grant Fritchey SSC Guru Points: 398882 More actions · Answer 5

Jack Corbett (1/19/2009)
Grant Fritchey (1/19/2009)
Ninja's_RGR'us (1/19/2009)
That's worth repiting Grant :w00t::D:hehe:.
What? Did the copy editors fall down on the job again. Steve, fire that mangy lot and get someone decent in here to protect us from own poor typing skills and pathetic grasp of the English language.
That's probably my favorite feature of the google toolbar, spell checking just like in Word.

Yes, but you have to remember to press the button.

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- Theodore Roosevelt

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Gail Shaw SSC Guru Points: 1004504 More actions · Answer 6

Jack Corbett (1/19/2009)
That's probably my favorite feature of the google toolbar, spell checking just like in Word.

Firefox has that built in. Why do you think I make so few spelling mistakes. It is not, I assure you, because I can spell.

Gail Shaw
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D.Oc SSCrazy Points: 2875 More actions · Answer 7

Ninja's_RGR'us (1/19/2009)
That wouldn't have been so funny if you hadn't repeated it twice in a row :D:w00t::P.
Been guilty myself of a few typos over the years... so no harm done :).

Ninja is English your first spoken language or French?

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Ninja's_RGR'us SSC Guru Points: 294069 More actions · Answer 8

Domagoj Orec (1/19/2009)
Ninja's_RGR'us (1/19/2009)
That wouldn't have been so funny if you hadn't repeated it twice in a row :D:w00t::P.
Been guilty myself of a few typos over the years... so no harm done :).
Ninja is English your first spoken language or French?

It's french, so I always screw up on words like exemple or example... I never know which one is for english!?!?

I couldmake more use of that spell check myself :w00t:.

Adi Cohn-120898 SSC-Dedicated Points: 33944 More actions · Answer 9

Here is one - http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic638875-145-1.aspx.

Notice his second respond after Steve’s and Garadin’s request from him. By the way one of the things that I can’t understand is completely ignoring request for information by someone that wants to help. Unfortunately there are to many cases like that.

Adi

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Jeff Moden SSC Guru Points: 1004339 More actions · Answer 10

Jack Corbett (1/19/2009)
Here's a good blog post about people just implementing solutions form the internet or forums without caring why:
http://www.straightpathsql.com/blog/2009/1/18/empirical-evidence.html
I found this on a tweet by Jonathan Kehayias.

How odd... I just finished writing one that I called "The 'SQL Clone' Epidemic"... decided not to publish it because it gets a bit nasty about experts knocking their rings instead of providing demonstrable code or, in the case of the article cited above, emperical evidence that something is actually true and not just a myth or someones feeling (usually couched in something like "Well! In my 10 years of experience as a .... ".

Here's a tease from the article...

The code may or may not be tested against the data the user provided (if any was provided), but because of the trusted nature of the source(s) of the code, everyone walks away happy because the problem has been solved. The OP, who went from having no solution, now has a solution from a trusted source and will not only use the code, but add the code to their code library and will frequently share the code with others at the place of work. Further, the code does the job so nicely for them, they may actually buy the book that was cited as part of the post that provided the solution because there's bound to be other nifty solutions in the book. They're so impressed that they may even provide the code on future posts on forums as the way to solve this very common problem for others.

And, isn't that what all good souls do? Share solutions, identify trusted sources, copy working code, help others in need…

…and…

[font="Arial Black"]spread the epidemic?[/font]

--Jeff Moden

RBAR is pronounced "ree-bar" and is a "Modenism" for Row-By-Agonizing-Row.
First step towards the paradigm shift of writing Set Based code:
________Stop thinking about what you want to do to a ROW... think, instead, of what you want to do to a COLUMN.

Change is inevitable... Change for the better is not.

Helpful Links:
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The Dixie Flatline SSC Guru Points: 53354 More actions · Answer 11

Hey Jeff: Would you consider distributing it privately?

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Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain. -- Friedrich Schiller
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Jeff Moden SSC Guru Points: 1004339 More actions · Answer 12

Bob Hovious (1/19/2009)
Hey Jeff: Would you consider distributing it privately?

Sure... right after you tell me where you got that awesome rendition of the bio-hazard icon. 😛 I'd also appreciate an opinion (a review, if you will) as to wheter or not I should actually publish the article or not... it does hit a lot of folks squarely in the kisser with some pretty high speed pork chops.

--Jeff Moden

RBAR is pronounced "ree-bar" and is a "Modenism" for Row-By-Agonizing-Row.
First step towards the paradigm shift of writing Set Based code:
________Stop thinking about what you want to do to a ROW... think, instead, of what you want to do to a COLUMN.

Change is inevitable... Change for the better is not.

Helpful Links:
How to post code problems
How to Post Performance Problems
Create a Tally Function (fnTally)

The Dixie Flatline SSC Guru Points: 53354 More actions · Answer 13

I keep biohazard emblems for all occasions. Sort of like online mood rings. You too can compile your own library if you just search google images for "biohazard".

I would like to read your nonpublished thoughts though. I'm sure I have promulgated a number of less than optimum ideas in my time. My penance for this sin is to immediately concede the superiority of new techniques as I am exposed to them and then promulgate THOSE, until something better comes along.

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Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain. -- Friedrich Schiller
Stop, children, what's that sound? Everybody look what's going down. -- Stephen Stills

Jeff Moden SSC Guru Points: 1004339 More actions · Answer 14

Bob Hovious (1/19/2009)
I keep biohazard emblems for all occasions. Sort of like online mood rings. You too can compile your own library if you just search google images for "biohazard".
I would like to read your nonpublished thoughts though. I'm sure I have promulgated a number of less than optimum ideas in my time. My penance for this sin is to immediately concede the superiority of new techniques as I am exposed to them and then promulgate THOSE, until something better comes along.

It depends on HOW you "concede the superiority of new techniques".

The article isn't 100% complete... I abandoned it because I thought it might be too controversial for a forum. I'll send you what I have, so far.

--Jeff Moden

RBAR is pronounced "ree-bar" and is a "Modenism" for Row-By-Agonizing-Row.
First step towards the paradigm shift of writing Set Based code:
________Stop thinking about what you want to do to a ROW... think, instead, of what you want to do to a COLUMN.

Change is inevitable... Change for the better is not.

Helpful Links:
How to post code problems
How to Post Performance Problems
Create a Tally Function (fnTally)

RBarryYoung SSC Guru Points: 143329 More actions · Answer 15

I'll take a look at it if you want, Jeff. Just to see how much of it is about me. 😀

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